I tried testing a movie from my home server in plex through firefox and repeatedly got this message, even after reloading.

I knew that they had paywalled the apps on mobile and streaming from outside the network but now they have also blocked watching your own movies through your own hardware.

I do get the point that making software should be able to sustain people but I dont see the move of plex as a fair thing to do. Yes, they have made great software but taking your home server hostage feels like the wrong move.

Even a pop up that says “we need you to donate please” would have been fine. make it pop up before every movie, play donation ads before any movie but straight up disabling the app is kinda cruel.

Anyway, i have switched to jellyfin and it is insanely good. please give it a try. you can run it alongside plex with not issues (at least i had none) and compare the two.

In any case, good luck. Let me know if you need help.

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    In this thread:

    1. An OP that doesn’t understand how their network is working
    2. People rushing to suggest a solution that they fawn over because it’s open source. I have yet to see anyone recommend Emby.
    3. “Tailscale will solve all your problems!” Great - how do I make that work on an LG TV that’s 100 miles away?
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      1. Open source has high immunity to devs making changes at the expense of the user for their benefit because anti-features can be removed. Recommending another proprietary alternative here would be like saying they aught to leave an abusive partner but then recommend someone with the same red flags.
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          It’s not a cake walk, but I’ve something similar for a friend who can barely turn on his PC.

          The OpenWRT router was fully configured before shipping it to him and the existing router’s needed Wireguard port was opened by me using the Comcast Android app. All he had to do was connect his TV to a new wifi network. That wasn’t easy, but he ultimately succeeded.

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            Ok, so you didn’t walk someone through it; you shipped them something preconfigured.

            That’s not going to scale as I share out my server.

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                  AtariDump@lemmy.world wrote:

                  Great; how do I get my Mother to do that over the phone?

                  That’s not going to scale as I share out my server.

                  Are you incapable of recognizing that in this context my comment was a joke? What the fuck is wrong with you?

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                    How are you complaining of someone not recognising a joke when you failed to recognise that the response was a joke, as well?

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            How do I load and configure Tailscale on my TCL Roku TV?

            This is an answer im looking for.

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              Natively, you can’t. Hackishly, you could put a small VPN capable router in front of it that would manage the connection.

              That’s according to Dr Internet, so I haven’t tried it, but it seems very likely to be accurate.

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        Thanks.

        One of my pet peeves is when people immediately jump to whatever their fanboy program of choice is regardless of if it’s actually the right program to run in the situation given.

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      I’ll add to #2 (IDK if it’s open source, though):

      Give Stremio a try. Once you set it up (basically just add the Torrentio plug-in then whatever content catalogs you want), the workflow is much better and simpler than Plex.

      You just browse it like Netflix: see something you want to watch, select it with your remote, then stream it immediately. No server to run, you don’t have to build libraries, you don’t even have download the content beforehand. Just select and watch. Could not be easier.

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        Is it torrenting in the background? Because, if it is, then you need a VPN and I don’t know how to set one up on my LG TV. Would you happen to have a guide?

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          If you live in an area where you need a VPN to keep your ISP off your ass, well you’re in luck because the Torrentio plug-in is compatible with Debrid services (Real-Debrid is a good one). They’re cheaper than a VPN (less than €3/mo) and get you direct downloads which ISPs don’t care about since you’re not distributing files like you would with a torrent client. What’s nice is that they work with any torrent—not just video—so you can download wherever you want at 1gbps speeds so long as the torrent has at least one seed. Since you’re not actually interacting with the torrents themselves, there’s no need for a VPN.

          Setup is easy. The only thing you need to do is install the Stremio app on your TV, then open it and install the Torrentio plug-in. From there you configure your preferences like preferred resolution, language, etc, enter your Debrid service credentials if you have them; after that you install additional plug-ins for the kind of content you want. I’d recommend starting off with the Streaming Catalogs (lists popular content from Netflix, Amazon, Disney HBO, etc.)and Trakt.tv plug-ins (recommends content based on your viewing habits). There’s also plug-ins for anime if that’s your thing. Once you install the plug-ins you like, the only thing left to do is pick something to watch and enjoy. :)

          You can also download the Stremio app to your phone and configure everything from there if you don’t want to fumble with doing all of this with the TV remote. I’d recommend doing it this way so that all you have to do on the TV is fire up the Stremio app and enjoy.

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            If you live in an area where you need a VPN to keep your ISP off your ass

            Uploading copyrightes material is illegal pretty much everywhere I know of.

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              Many places don’t enforce those laws for simply torrenting.

              Some countries (US) ask the ISP to send warning letters and might disable the internet. In other countries law firms get personal details from the ISP and send a costly letter of a thousand Euro for a single infraction like in Germany.

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                That’s true, but ISPs have logs. And if something happens that makes the police change their mind about enforcing the law, you might be fucked, retroactively.

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                  Again, not an issue if you use a Debrid service, because no files are being uploaded.

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              Exactly, which is why you don’t need a VPN if you use a Debrid service. No files are being uploaded. The Debrid service handles that for you by downloading the torrent to a remote server, than giving you a direct download link to the file. Nothing is being uploaded from your end.

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              Bro you asked for a guide, I gave you a guide. The fuck you want from me? (For convenience sake I even made as short as possible. Literally less than a 45 second read.)

              I put a lot of effort into that comment to help you out, and instead of saying “thank you”, you respond with this bullshit? What the hell is wrong with you?

              Ungrateful prick.

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                I asked for a guide on how to setup a VPN on my LG TV.

                Please specifically point out where in your long repo se you provided a guide on how to run a VPN on my LG TV.

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                  Again, you don’t need a VPN if you follow my guide. Your reading comprehension is worse than mine, and I have ADHD. *sigh*

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                    I’m not asking how to do it without a VPN, I’m asking how to do it WITH a VPN.

                    Not sure what’s hard to understand.

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        I always see people advocate for Stremio. But my experience was always very mixed. Half the time it would just buffer all the time. I guess it’s s my own fault for having little interest in the latest Marvel/Hollywood movies, but alas. I way more prefer my jellyfin/jellyseer/arr stack. Once it’s available I’m (99%) sure it works from everywhere in the world.

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          Are you using a Debrid service with it? It’s a much better experience if you are. Give Real-Debrid a try with Stremio. It’ll change your opinion.

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      Actual answer for 3:

      • put jellyfin behind a proper reverse proxy. Ideally on a separate host / hardware firewall, but nginx on the same host works fine as well.
      • create subdomain, let’s say sub.yourdomain.com
      • forward traffic, for that subdomain ONLY, to jellyfin in your reverse proxy config
      • tell your relatives to put sub.yourdomain.com into their jellyfin app

      All the fear-mongering about exposing jellyfin to the internet I have seen on here boils down to either

      • “port forwarding is a bad idea!!”, which yes, don’t do that. The above is not that. Or
      • “people / bots who know your IP can get jellyfin to work as a 1-bit oracle, telling you if a specific media file exists on your disk” which is a) not an indication for something illegal, and b) prevented by the described reverse proxy setup insofar as the bot needs to know the exact subdomain (and any worthwhile domain-provider will not let bots walk your DNS zone).

      (Not saying YOU say that; just preempting the usual folklore typically commented whenever someone suggests hosting jellyfin publicly accessible)

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        Where do I find Wireguard for my LG TV?

        You can’t expect my relatives living 100+ miles away to start monkeying around with their router. That be like asking you to set the spark plug timing correctly using a timing gun.

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          Did you even read the link? You don’t need it on every device. It’s not really that difficult to understand.

          I AM A 48 YEAR OLD FORMER FUCKING TRUCK DRIVER FOR FUCKS SAKE, and yet, I still managed to set up tailscale on my phone and a computer, and then access my stuff that ISNT running tailscale in any way, shape or form, from my phone, simply because I decided to figure it the fuck out.

          Stop being so damned lazy.

          I am so fucking tired of this “cater to the lowest common denominator” bullshit.

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            Stop being so dam lazy and do all the things you pay someone else to do.

            Mow the lawn. Fix the plumbing. Run new electrical. Neuter the cat. Clean your teeth. Do your taxes. Properly segment your network into several VLANs so that your IoT devices can’t talk to your internal network.