• vala@lemmy.world
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      17 hours ago

      Imo in this original painting Saturn is horrified either to be doing this at all, or to be seen doing it.

      So I don’t think the poetry transfers to trump here.

      I know this is shit posts but we’re also discussing high art so…

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          8 hours ago

          Yeah I’ve heard few different intersting takes. I think most people agree the expression is mechanical like you said.

          This is just my impression. It’s the lighting more than anything that makes me feel this way. The painting seems to be illuminating the devourer in a way that suggests he might be seeing his own act for the first time himself.

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          16 hours ago

          He certainly wasn’t horrified about doing it in the original myth, as far as I remember.

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            Yeah, I’ve always seen Goya’s version (if this is even Saturn at all) to be an inversion or some kind of commentary on the original theme. There are a few famous paintings of this scene from before Goya’s time.

            If anything it feels to me that Saturn was in the darkness doing this act but now there is a bright and sudden light being shown on him and he is shocked or ashamed. Almost like he has possibly “snapped out” of the state he was just in and is now maybe seeing what he has done for the first time himself.

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        17 hours ago

        Yeah he didn’t even actually name this painting. We really don’t know who the subjects are for sure.

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        2 days ago

        I dunno, I think that’s part of the magic of the Black Paintings. To me, what makes them truly unsettling (in the best way) is the fact that he painted them exclusively for his own desire and that we’re limited to guessing the subject matter (which, although ambiguous, was undoubtedly dark).

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          Insanity created some of the most definitely gothic images ever. Goya is so slept on. I’m especially partial to his etchings

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          2 days ago

          True, I just always want to know the facts about everything, no matter how insignificant, for historical posterity and my own curiosity.

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            Part of this art is that there really are no “facts”. It was painted on the wall of his home some time before his death but wasn’t found before he died. He never gave it a name or said anything about it.