It goes without saying, DVDs/BlueRays.

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    Not disappear entirely, but most households won’t own desktop computers or HDDs.

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      Most people connected to the Internet today have never owned a desktop computer nor an HDD. A crazy amount of people have been introduced to computing with smartphones.

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      As a homelabber, this makes me sad. Perhaps enshittification will push people back into home/local computing.

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          I agree. I’m also very sad when I see small kids watching YouTube videos on tablets; that’s pretty much all they do.

          Where’s the fun of tinkering? Trying to build things? Trying fixing problems, such as formatting?

          Kids don’t even have the concept of files and folders. We’re raising a generation of digital slaves.

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            Honestly I don’t think that’s tru. There were very few kids who truly tinkered with their computers in the old days too - first because not many kids had computers in the first place, and then because computers started being useful without any tinkering. There are still a lot of youths (12-16) today who are flashing LineageOS on their phone or installing Linux on their Chromebook, or whatever. I know because they keep flooding the NixOS Telegram chat that I’m managing - and I try to welcome them with open arms!

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          smartphones are a black box.

          Many Android phones still have a bit of that tinkering ability to them (you kinda have access to the file system, and you can root them/flash custom android distros), but it’s quickly diminishing because (1) OEMs are locking the bootloaders, (2) it’s getting harder and harder to get hardware working without proprietary OEM hacks, (3) bank apps and other proprietary garbage that’s becoming a necessity in modern times refuses to run on an unlocked phone.

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        I would hope, but on the whole you’d almost think they deliberately purged home computing from the mainstream consciousness, with how tragically ignorant the average person is about anything that isn’t a little poke-driven rectangle that screams at you all day.

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      Funnily enough I recently had to disable ipv4 in a game because of connection issues.

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      My ISp shares a single IPv4 between multiple customers, NAT 444.

      So my PC is on 192.168.1.4 on the LAN, my router is on 10.183.13.62 on my ISPs network and some number of customers are sharing 84.146.73.54

      They don’t give out IPv6 addresses though.

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    I’m going to be bold. The internal combustion engine car.

    There will be a tipping point where nobody wants to maintain the highly intricate manufacturing for them, and they will stop very quickly. Electric motors are the future and the transition is accelerating. We’re currently around 20% of new sales and I expect after 60-70% ICEs will just disappear from sale.

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        Most countries will be raising taxes on fuel even more and in general it will become less available fast: gas stations, mechanics who know how to fix the ICE old timers etc. it will become a hobby thing (like old timers today already). Certain niches will keep ICE way longer (heavy construction vehicles etc) but it will suddenly become quite rare in 20 or 30 years to see a regular old ICE driven by a regular person doing regular things like commuting or so.

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          For heavy construction vehicles only three main factors need to align: normal replacement schedule, enough capacity for the heaviest day (which is quite predictable in many industries,) and the charging infrastructure.

          The last one is a major hurdle and is holding back EVs on all levels already. In the US it is also the least likely to see improvement anytime soon

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      I don’t think that’s bold.
      It’s already at 25% last month and 50+% in China.

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      I think the EU has plans to stop the sale of ICEs in 10 years, so… that could start a snowball effect.

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      I don’t know of any millennial or younger who assumes there will be a safety net for them at the end of the road. We just don’t trust those in charge to keep it. I’ll fight for it, I paid into it and I want others to have it, but I can’t bank on it either

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        There’s simply no way to keep pensions. It’s like a big pyramid scheme where new people are putting the money and old people are enjoying them; the problem is that old people are growing and they’ve been living longer, and young people are less and less.

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          The problem is the owners don’t pay their fair share, nothing else.

          Productivity has risen to cover everything.

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      Fuck that, we’ll burn it all down if they take social security from us. It’s largely paid from existing taxes as it is. We just need to get through this shit show of an administration first. That or pray Mario shows up

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    I’d say consumer printers

    We’re running towards all digital, only a few edge cases will still require them

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      self-inflicted, if they played nice we would all be printing from home.

      upside is less paper waste

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      I’ve found myself needing to print something only 1-2 times per year, so I just go to the library to do it. E-waste-wise, this change is for the better

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        Luckily we’ve invited 10 new gadgets for you to make sure we meet our E-waste goals

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      Most of my print jobs… maybe one a month, are for either artistic reasons or for making labels to stick on things.

      I do still print tickets out of habit though, just in case I lose/forget my phone or drain the battery that day, though this has literally never happened.

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    I feel like DVDs/Blurays already disappeared 10 years ago and are now making a comeback. Same for CDs. Streaming services don’t let you own anything, and if they pull something down, you’re SOL. Self hosting Plex and ripping my own disks has given me a level of freedom not possible with netflix et. al. Especially since DVDs are considered garbage to most people now, you can set up your own streaming service for you and your friends and family for cheap. No piracy necessary.

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      We call it AI now but machine learning algorithms have been around for 70 years now and basically run the world

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      AI technologie could be nice. LLM and Diffusion models ruining the Internet with fake information and Fake art, being over hyped as AI that will change the world, all while burning up unimaginable amounts of energy? Yeah, I also hope it goes away.

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      No way. We will build grids and power for eventual AI takeover of common employees like fast food. It’s a sad future.

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        Thus converting a workforce of poorly paid fast food employees into one of highly paid utility workers.

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    If anything I think DVDs and Blu-rays are going to rise. All across the media landscape people seem to be getting annoyed with the “own nothing” society we’re in. The thrift stores are full of thousands of DVDs for barely any cost. Last week I bought the Matrix 2 and 3 and Der Untergang in DVD for like 3 bucks. Way easier than figuring out in which streaming service to watch them and what OS and browser will let it play at HD resolution. Once “the youth” picks up on this like they did with CDs and digicams the DVD will be back.

    Recently In bought a Blu-ray of Star Wars Andor because I love the series and want to support it, but Disney+ wouldn’t play beyond 480p on my setup. My trusty old PS3 plays it like a dream and the resulting image is ridiculously sharp compared to streaming.

    CDs, cassettes, and vinyl are already booming or in the rise again. And the streaming audio landscape is arguably way nicer than the streaming video lanschape. In photography there’s also a wave of film and early digital camera hype.

    I hope that the next 10 years brings the resurgence of the physical medium and ownership. And if not that, the resurgence of the high seas.

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      I mean flash drives, SD card and others are just as good as DVDs these days and are getting cheaper and cheaper by the day so I cannot really see why people would want DVDs and Blue Rays these days

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        You’re right - they’re massively better than spinny bits of plastic in every way. Speed, capacity (1tb tfcard the size of your pinky nail), cost (probably) and longevity. DVD/CD’s don’t last very well in storage.

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        If it were up to me that’d be fine indeed. But they probably want to retain compatibility with existing setups and unfortunately they will also want some DRM, which Blu-ray provides. A new flash storage (or even just download/file-based) standard should totally be possible, but that’d first require some investment.

        Also, there’s some joy in having the plastic spinny thing and putting it into a machine to watch the content. Not having all the content ready at your fingertips and instead putting some throught and effort into getting to the content is what makes stuff like vinyl popular again.

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      They’ll never come back because studios will never release new movies on them.

      Piracy is coming back strong, but I don’t personally see myself going back to burning DVDs instead of buying HDD/SSDs.

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        I mean, you’re still able to buy the Star Wars shows on Blu-ray, so physical disks for video content might remain just like people but vinyls as a collectors item. DVDs will be for old content only, but there are still so many that they may nevertheless become popular again.

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      Apparently theres a rise in demand for “dumb TVs”, to the point people are paying a premium…no sources, I read it on Lemmy.

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        I bought one last year and when I need to replace a TV, I will do it again.

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        No surprise to me. Everything I’ve heard from smart TVs has made me decide that I don’t want one. Expensive telemetry machines. My current TV is basically just a dumb screen and I wouldn’t want it any other way.

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    I don’t expect it so quickly, but hopefully lithium ion batteries (and variants like Li-poly, LiFePO4, etc)

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      Sodium batteries are already commercially available and although their volumetric energy density and round trip efficiency is lower than lithium I think they are a promising alternative to lead acid and some lithium applications.

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          Safer, very high power to weight ratio, better self discharge stability and good temperature range performance are the advantages. The most important one is of course the lack of massive environmental impact of water hungry lithium mining in dry environments and the geopolitical challenges evident in lithium sourcing.

          There are a few electric vehicles with this chemistry and I predict it will replace lithium based chemistries in lower cost, smaller vehicles.

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          To add to the other comment - the materials are fundamentally cheaper, and so if manufacturing continues to scale they should be significantly cheaper.

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            Maybe in the not too distant future we will build our roofs out of solar panels and walls out of batteries.

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      Can you explain why and how? Do you imagine other (better?) batteries, or the disappearance of the need for batteries?