I have a folder of MP3s, some of which date back to 1999, just a few years after the format was popularised. Most of them have utterly terrible names (think RIDEONAM.MP3). I think at this point they might even survive the heat death of the universe. And they’ll still be terribly-organised.
You’ll find that MusicBrainz Picard is a heaven sent tool to properly tag your files, with optional proper renaming.
It takes some getting used to, and I find it works best in whole albums, but produces a much more professional library.
Picard sometimes falls short on cover arts and track names of some niche or non-english albums because of that mp3tag with discogs is sometimes needed
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We’ve evolved towards a software-managed autotagged library of lossless audio now, but yeah, pretty much.
I just had a chat with my friends about how the family plan price went up 30% while the basic functionality doesnt fucking work half the time
Amen. Glad to hear I’m not the only one baffled that Spotify’s app development is total garbage. It is one app that doesn’t get updated ever - once I have a working version. If it were up to me, I’d happily never use it again
I find music on YouTube and autoconvert it to MP3 with yt-dlp and ffmpeg. It fetches new music from my personal “Favorite Music” playlist, downloads the highest quality audio source, converts it to MP3, embeds the metadata and cover art and tries to parse the artist and title as best as possible.
yt-dlp -x -f bestaudio --audio-quality 0 --audio-format mp3 --embed-thumbnail --add-metadata --metadata-from-title "%(artist)s - %(title)s" --playlist-start 1 --playlist-end 999 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=123abc -o "./files/%(artist)s - %(title)s.%(ext)s" --cookies-from-browser
Needs minimal adjustment sometimes if the title format is weird, but works 95% automatic. What I like most about this is the fact that music vanishes all the time from YouTube, but it doesn’t affect me. No one deletes the files from my harddrive but me.
I want to marry you.
Pro tip, make sure the browser you’re copying the cookies of isn’t logged in. Otherwise they may ban you sooner or later.
I’ve been doing something similar but but very basic. I didn’t know you could also add thumbnails and metadata! Mind = blown…
I will change my old ways ASAP. A new era begins!
TYVM
Doing God’s work
I have just been downloading as it is with
yt-dlp -x
(created an alias so I just typedl
) and then rename and sort the files manually as I find stuff is so often in different naming formats
That can be fixed easily* with programs like
beets
* = the program itself is easy to use, but installing and configuring it, requires a PhD in Linux-Arch-ology
Musicbrainz Picard is a lot easier than beets, although it does require some introductory concepts to make sense (e.g. terminology like “release”, “release group”). And it makes it too easy to accidentally poison datasets in an attempt to be helpful. Harder to automate than beets, too.
Both of them also benefit from a decent knowledge of where your files came from, not as good for a random pile of mp3s.
Picard is very manual, I fucking love it though
I fucking love beets
left spotify and started downloading all my music from [COMPLETELY LEGAL AVENUES] and bandcamp. It’s good to have music that Spotify cannot take away from me.
I download music from YouTube. Are the “completely legal avenues” better than that? In that case can you provide links in DM so I make sure to block these domains and to promptly inform the authorities? Thank you.
Slskd is something that you should never consider using
Holy shit, soulseek is still a thing??! TIL
Slskd is an app that is meant to be run in docker to integrate with your arr stack for music
I was today years old when I found out the arr stack is called like that because it’s used to sail the high seas… Arr 🏴☠️🦜
I have a happy middle ground:
I pay for Tidal’s student subscription. I leverage the fact Tidal streams FLAC files that can be decrypted by your account to build my local collection.
So I never actually stream or use their app, but technically am paying for the downloads.
I tried buying FLACs from companies that actually wanted to sell FLACs but they have ridiculously bad catalogues.
The files downloaded this way are usable offline? Is there some utility you are using to do this? I am very interested.
Yep, they’re regular FLAC files with tagged metadata.
You can use them as normal. Copy to another device, to an iPod, use them on a video editor, send to a friend.
This has been going on for ages, Tidal never patched it, so I think they quietly are okay with it because not many users do it anyway and at least you’re paying for the service.
any links for more info?
I think any links would violate Lemmy.world’s policies.
But a quick search for “Tidal downloader github” will give you several options.
But the ides is that when Tidal streams to specific devices they basically upload an encrypted FLAC to an AWS host and the device downloads the file and uses your account as the key.
So people create apps that do all that, but instead of simply streaming the FLAC, they download and save it. They require a paid account, or an active free trial. I pay for the discounted student one, which still gives you access to the maximum audio quality.
The great part is you get album art, live lyrics, high resolution audio, an organized and properly tagged library with zero work. The output FLACs are regular files - no DRM or weirdness, I use them on a MP3 player.
i gave it a cursory duckduckgo! everything looked a couple years old. I’ll keep digging.
i wouldn’t mind a dm! if you’ve the time.
You want a new generation tidal downloader.
On GitHub.
So a Tidal downloader new generation.
One could call such a thing tidal-dl-ng if they’re trying to save some letters, I guess.
thanks for helping out an old man!
Look up soulseek
Nah, it has very much been replaced with properly sorted .flac files. What ever is left is stuff I don’t listen to anymore.
I really want to go this route. Had Spotify, tempted to get Tidal but I don’t want to deal with content coming and going anymore. I have about 300 gigs of random MP3s, and Flac files. I want to obtain more and move over fully to flac. Any recommendations on making the transition back to locally stored music.
I’m currently making the move myself and I’ve had a really easy time with soundiiz.com and YouTube-dl with a Linux GUI. Basically soundiiz takes your playlist from one service and makes an identical one on another service. You move all your jams to YouTube and rip the audio out of them with youtube-dl. Here’s a wikihow with the deets
I gave up on trying to sort my initial batch and just started replacing.
First I try to find a full discography of an artist by a solid release group (for example "PEMEDIA or “88”). With those you can just copy the entire folder into the artist directory and plex/jellyfin etc will perfectly detect it. Then just add new albums as they are released.
You can probably find a converter that will rip those files from Youtube for you. I did mine a year and a half ago. If I open Spotify it’s just to see the playlists they made for me, because those are actually pretty good, but I rip those files and store them too.
File format has nothing to do with proper sorting. I’ve got 350k songs properly organized by artist, album, etc, but mp3. I’ve no need for flac.
File format has nothing to do with proper sorting.
Correct, it doesn’t.
Main difference to mp3 is that flac is “lossless” so the audio quality is a bit better, but it requires more space (though still pretty insignificant compared to video).
I know the difference, but it’s irrelevant to organization.
Right, I never said that it was?
I just found it much easier to just download and replace my library with files that are already sorted instead of sorting it myself. And when you’re replacing them you might as well upgrade the quality.
Nah, it has very much been replaced with properly sorted .flac files. What ever is left is stuff I don’t listen to anymore.
Bold portion above insinuates they have to be flac format. But same is true for mp3, ogg, wav, etc.
I don’t think it insinuates that. I’m just describing what I did to my library.
When I say that I replaced bag full of apples with a neatly stacked box of pears that doesn’t insinuate that only pears can be stacked.
hey now, they’re flac files and painstakingly sorted with the help of musicbrainz picard
I have that too! I also have that one folder of random shit that I’ve avoided sorting for the last 20 years.
I also have that one folder of random shit that I’ve avoided sorting for the last 20 years.
pff I have so many folders like that that I have folders for those kinds of folders. I should probably put those folders all into a single folder…
Check out beets.
Why, what does it do better than picard?
Saved me a ton of time for some massive imports, but I do get @Wolf314159@startrek.website point, night not be the best tool for other cases.
And a long list of WIERDA~1.MP3 that could contain anything.
Did you know that if you have more than nine Weird Al songs, it truncates to the first two characters, then an undocumented four-character hash, then ~1?
Just Microsoft things.
I thought they removed 8.3 file names a while back though?
they did. that hasn’t been a thing since like dos or something.
No they’re still there in NTFS. It’s definitely still a thing, although automatic creation of 8.4 file names can be disabled.
I still use mp3s because:
- No financial cost
- Not tied to any one app or service
- More customization: Can be played back at any speed or modified in some other way
no fucking commercials or streaming bullshit.
ZERO FUCKING DOLLARS GOES TO JOE FUCKHEAD ROGAN.
that’s enough justification for mp3 imho
Yeah forgot to mention the lack of ads and the reliable access anywhere part
Unless you’re like me and your 25 years worth of mp3s was lost in a hard drive failure a couple of years back… 😢
o7 we all learn the backup rule one way or another.
thanks for the reminder to test mine!
Wanna know the funniest part? I have a bachelor and master of computer science! 🤣
Mine is included in my backup script, rsync to several other devices.
For me it was 10 years worth of mp3s in my pen drive
I had the perfect collection back then
Data loss is tragic, I feel for you
Remember you can always check out CDs from the library and rip them to your collection.
I can’t possibly calculate how many hours I spent curating my music library. I don’t use it anymore but you better bet that I still have it saved to the cloud and locally and it’s there in case I need it.
Some of this stuff I downloaded off the original Napster.
I’m amazed you still have the old files. I was late for Napster but I downloaded loads of individual files from kazaa/limewire/frostwire and used them to burn CDs.
Only a few years later though I would get into torrenting and replace pretty much all those shitty old low bitrate files with 320kbps mp3 discographies.
Many years later after college when I finally had a little extra money I started buying all my favorite CDs I discovered from the previous meana and ripped them myself to ~1000 kbps FLAC and meticulously tagged and organized them into my current music collection.
CDs are unfortunately getting harder and harder to find and I’ve only very recently started torrenting a little again, and I prefer everything be FLAC but if it’s not available I still do have some 320kbps mp3 left in the collection.
Everything I could find that was of higher quality, I downloaded over time. I have some bootlegs though along with some music I’ve found from no other sources. I’ll never replace some of it, but that’s fine.
I find it funny how we’ve resorted to streaming services in an age where you can put 256 gigabytes ono a pinky nail sized storage solution. Ereaders are even better, my old Kindle with 4gb of storage can hold an entire library.
Try Mp3tag
A wild Mp3tag mentioned!!
Not unless you keep up with migrating your files. Drives fail over time.
Gotta have a good backup strategy for sure. I would’ve lost my collection a few times if I didn’t have one.