cross-posted from: https://jlai.lu/post/24787719
Starting next year, Google will begin to verify the identities of developers distributing their apps on Android devices, not just those who distribute via the Play Store.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! What the actual fuck, Google‽
I swear to Hephaestus, at this point I’m considering switching to UBPorts or Sailfish OS or something…
And, just like that, no more modded apps, no more custom stores, everything is tightly under control unless you install a custom ROM (and then it’s no more banking apps,etc.). And it’s all for our own good, after all, big brother Google knows what’s best for us!
Some banking apps do work so it would be helpful not to spread that misconception.
True. Also, most banks offer a web interface.
My (major Canadian) Bank app (TD) has always just worked, no matter the state of my bootloader or root, and I’ve never bothered with Magisk Hide or anything like that to try to dodge root checks.
Requirement of authentication apps is making it trickier too. If you want to go to a concert or sporting event vended by ticketmaster, you’re fucked outside of Android and iOS.
Clocking into jobs increasingly requires Android or iOS.
Yes, there used to be papers for “coordinate systems” you could use as 2FA, and SMS one-time-passwords… but they are slowly being rolled out in the EU due to security concerns and the “Strong Customer Authentication (SCA)” standards mandated by PSD2. EU banks are transitioning to app-based and biometric authentication now… here you literally need a phone if you want any form of online banking.
I just use the web browser instead of a banking app.
While I won’t tell people exactly what to search, I can guarantee that I can find malware first try on Google Play. Google Play Integrity is just as dodgy.
When a preventative measure very obviously won’t solve the stated problem, that may not be what it’s really there to solve. This is another of Google’s anti-open-source moves designed to bring all Android devices entirely under their control and surveillance. It goes along with their bringinh all Android development in house and making it harder for third parties to make their own custom versions of Android (Graphene OS etc.). It also seems a little odd that this happens right when several countries are introducing requirements that users supply ID to visit websites.
shit like this really should be illegal
Probably is
Yeah but with dumpy in the wh, who’s gonna stop them?
Custom ROM usage is gonna explode
Probably why Google is also taking steps to make custom ROM development significantly more difficult. They evidently want to kill off all Android ecosystems except the ones they control and watch.
My blood glucose monitor is not on the play store. So one dy next year I’ll wake up and no longer be able to get that data…?
setting up walled garden using security excuse. What’s the next excuse?
We all know the reason.
Won’t somebody please think of the children!
The terrible risk that you install apps which don’t use google-tagmanager, googleanalytics and don’t send logging and user data to Alphabet.
Won’t someone think of the
childrenshareholders
To be clear, developers will have the same freedom to distribute their apps directly to users through sideloading or to use any app store they prefer.
They’re fucking with us
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/08/elevating-android-security.html
iOS has had this same system for forever and nobody’s ever (seriously) claimed you could sideload on there.
You’re free to distribute your app wherever you like, but no one will be able to use it.
ELI5 if this will affect the use of F-Droid?
If you have the stock OS from the manufacturer, it will affect you. If you flash a custom ROM, it won’t.
Edit: You can still use F-Droid regardless of which android you’re running, but if you run stock you can only install the apps that have developers registered with google.
I hope there will be at least some bypass using ADB like with older apps.
The bypass is to just not install gspps…
Sounds like another lawsuit waiting to happen
Wish we lived in a world where open source was funded even at a single percentage of what this oligopoly pulls in each year. We’d have a viable alternative to the duopoly by now.
The world is ruled by force and not by justice which does not exist, so soon we will most likely live in a dystopia.
Baby steps: I wish it was mandated that any software receiving even a penny in public funding must be open source down to the last byte.
Apps that use dark patterns (aka almost everything in the play store) are more harmful than apps commonly flagged as malware.
Harmful to who? People? Perchance.
Googles bottom line? Give them all the dark patterns in the world twice.
wdym flagged as a malware? the ones I ahve seen are all about unknown unsources
It seems Google has been tightening control over Android in recent years and this looks like the next major step. Most people probably won’t care and the only realistic option for users who value software freedom and privacy is to wait until Linux or another free and open-source OS becomes a viable alternative. Overall a disappointing turn of events for the mobile computing space
FairPhone with /e/OS by default is the EU answer by the e-Foundation
They’re closing in on alternative ROMs with their fucking shitty device integrity checks, I’m afraid it’s only getting worse. I literally had to switch back to stock Android because none of the e-government apps of the country I live in NOR two out of my three banks work on /e/. Literally impossible to participate in society unless I sell my soul to Google, sadly.
I really hope we’re able to fight back and win the war.
That’s sad, and so backwards…
If they really wanted to make sure the data on the phone is safe, the integrity checks should be about making sure the phone is built from FOSS with available source code, that can be publicly audited and even the banks themselves could check it for security… which should actually rule Google services out, not the other way around!
Only available to people who can afford nearly an iPhone x3
Well, it’s not a cheap phone, but it’s a phone for the rest of your life, it’s full modular, that means, you can fix and change everything by yourself any component of the phone, no need to pay money to an technic workshop. Apart it offers also sys specs which fits the price.
All this still does not matter if you cannot afford it. It is as simple as that.
Well, even if you can’t afford the price for an FairPhone, you can use /e/OS or also LinageOS in your Phone instead of Android, they are free and full based on the Android code, so all your apps will work in these without problems, but without Google breathing in your neck, dictating which app you can use and which not. You can also use some Linux distros made for Mobile, like Ubuntu Mobile and others, but these are not so compatible with Android apps, despite that Android is also an modified Linux, so it’s better to use the mencioned de-googled forks.
I use LineageOS4microG but as far as I can read, this will apply to Android itself and I am yet to see if LineageOS devs will avoid implementing the measure or what.
mobile computing space
I’m starting to feel like the Mobile Computing space died somewhere around when the Subnotebooks and the PDAs died and we’ve been living illusions ever since.
It’s the Mobile Appliance™ space now.
Wow thanks for posting this. I read the whole thing but what I’m not getting is the fact that their started concern is apks “side loaded”. This is aimed directly at the foss community as normal people already won’t I stall anything outside of the play store. No non tech enthusiasts go straight to git hub …
