large red öniön, Turkish yoghurt on the side. A pint of beer with it. Mmm.
I am sorry to report, I’ve lost my faith in your nutritional science capabilities
Edit: If I am to take it out of the realm of sarcastic dismissal, I would say that you spun up this whole narrative about how the person you’re talking to is addicted to sugar and needs to eat sweet stuff constantly throughout the day, just because they said they can’t go a full day without eating. I don’t even violently disagree with most of what you’re saying here, most of it I agree with if it is applied to someone who is constantly eating and whose metabolism is adapted like you said, but it seems unlikely that that applies to the person you’re talking to. It feels like you sort of applied a whole bunch of stuff that’s more a you situation or something you’re familiar with, to the other person without bothering to gather the information about what’s going on with them. And then talking about the large red öniön just brought it into the realm of the surreal for me.
You shouldn’t take the word of anyone just saying things.
I’m not a nutrition scientist nor do I purpor to be one. I have some schooling on it, from the army and some in civilian life, but yeah, why would you trust a random person on Lemmy?
That being said, what do you think is so wrong with the meal? A succulent chicken meal? Ofc I don’t eat that everyday or even every week. Super greasy, macros unbalanced. But delicious, and depending on what else you’ve had around the days before and after, it can be a part of a balanced diet.
I’m not claimed anyone is addicted to anything. I’m just saying that modern humanity is very different from what most of our evolutionary history was. The last 200 000 years are a miniscule portion or our evolutionary history, and while adaptation is our thing, the increased productivity over the last 200 years has made the Western world so wealthy that humanity itself is sort of distorted at places. New things become the norm. Surely you wouldn’t disagree that obesity is an ever growing issue?
If you look at the difference between Americans and Europeans, Europeans are generally slimmer, no offense. That’s just statistics. And it’s genuinely largely because the US uses HFCS instead of wheat derivative glucose, and while the difference between those isn’t huge, it’s is probably statistically significant. But its not just the difference in which sugar, it’s also how much of it is, or can be, labeled how, marketed how. Billion things affect it. Food deserts, infrastructure, social structure.
My point is that we probably have an equal amount of gluttony in Europe, and obviously similar-ish levels of obesity when properly compared, but still the US is worse. And it’s probably because we are more anal at regulating and America is more about freedom. So perhaps you guys have more fitter people as well, but so many more obese people that the obesity rate is still higher, and Europeans are just like on average less fit as fit people in the US, but not as fat as the average person.
And again I’d like to remind I don’t claim to have any professional knowledge. Just talking shit, but you can check to see if it is correct or not. I’m sure that last third is 90% bullshit guesses but the first third should be okay.
Oh and I’m saying just that bulking is regular mode in our metabolism, but that it’s being kept “too” on in modern society. Again, which is why intermittent fasting is so popular and effective. So for a person who’s not diabetic and eating the three meals a day, they probably can’t easily go a full day without being in kind of discomfort if they don’t eat at all. That’s “normal”, as per modern society and standards, but is it “normal” if we saw thousands of years into the past? Tens of thousands? I’d say not really. Would be a very different style.
So yeah, the “adaptation” is you just “changing modes” but for someone who hasn’t ever lived with an eating schedule like intermittent fasting, it can be a bitch at first. When I was in the army and eating five meals a day basically (three meals and breakfast and optional snack in the evening), I totally could not make it a full day without eating without being in massive pain. Hell just after a few weeks in the army, back home, even after a night out, I’d just wake up first time around 5.30 and my stomach would be painfully rumbling by 7 if I didn’t get up. Whereas currently I can rather easily go a day or two with little to no calories at any point. But that sort of deprivation does tend to make one angry is continued for too long, for realz, even when you’re used to it.
What a massive comment no-one is gonna read half of this but I’m writing it more for myself I guess.
I am sorry to report, I’ve lost my faith in your nutritional science capabilities
Edit: If I am to take it out of the realm of sarcastic dismissal, I would say that you spun up this whole narrative about how the person you’re talking to is addicted to sugar and needs to eat sweet stuff constantly throughout the day, just because they said they can’t go a full day without eating. I don’t even violently disagree with most of what you’re saying here, most of it I agree with if it is applied to someone who is constantly eating and whose metabolism is adapted like you said, but it seems unlikely that that applies to the person you’re talking to. It feels like you sort of applied a whole bunch of stuff that’s more a you situation or something you’re familiar with, to the other person without bothering to gather the information about what’s going on with them. And then talking about the large red öniön just brought it into the realm of the surreal for me.
You shouldn’t take the word of anyone just saying things.
I’m not a nutrition scientist nor do I purpor to be one. I have some schooling on it, from the army and some in civilian life, but yeah, why would you trust a random person on Lemmy?
That being said, what do you think is so wrong with the meal? A succulent chicken meal? Ofc I don’t eat that everyday or even every week. Super greasy, macros unbalanced. But delicious, and depending on what else you’ve had around the days before and after, it can be a part of a balanced diet.
I’m not claimed anyone is addicted to anything. I’m just saying that modern humanity is very different from what most of our evolutionary history was. The last 200 000 years are a miniscule portion or our evolutionary history, and while adaptation is our thing, the increased productivity over the last 200 years has made the Western world so wealthy that humanity itself is sort of distorted at places. New things become the norm. Surely you wouldn’t disagree that obesity is an ever growing issue?
If you look at the difference between Americans and Europeans, Europeans are generally slimmer, no offense. That’s just statistics. And it’s genuinely largely because the US uses HFCS instead of wheat derivative glucose, and while the difference between those isn’t huge, it’s is probably statistically significant. But its not just the difference in which sugar, it’s also how much of it is, or can be, labeled how, marketed how. Billion things affect it. Food deserts, infrastructure, social structure.
My point is that we probably have an equal amount of gluttony in Europe, and obviously similar-ish levels of obesity when properly compared, but still the US is worse. And it’s probably because we are more anal at regulating and America is more about freedom. So perhaps you guys have more fitter people as well, but so many more obese people that the obesity rate is still higher, and Europeans are just like on average less fit as fit people in the US, but not as fat as the average person.
And again I’d like to remind I don’t claim to have any professional knowledge. Just talking shit, but you can check to see if it is correct or not. I’m sure that last third is 90% bullshit guesses but the first third should be okay.
Oh and I’m saying just that bulking is regular mode in our metabolism, but that it’s being kept “too” on in modern society. Again, which is why intermittent fasting is so popular and effective. So for a person who’s not diabetic and eating the three meals a day, they probably can’t easily go a full day without being in kind of discomfort if they don’t eat at all. That’s “normal”, as per modern society and standards, but is it “normal” if we saw thousands of years into the past? Tens of thousands? I’d say not really. Would be a very different style.
So yeah, the “adaptation” is you just “changing modes” but for someone who hasn’t ever lived with an eating schedule like intermittent fasting, it can be a bitch at first. When I was in the army and eating five meals a day basically (three meals and breakfast and optional snack in the evening), I totally could not make it a full day without eating without being in massive pain. Hell just after a few weeks in the army, back home, even after a night out, I’d just wake up first time around 5.30 and my stomach would be painfully rumbling by 7 if I didn’t get up. Whereas currently I can rather easily go a day or two with little to no calories at any point. But that sort of deprivation does tend to make one angry is continued for too long, for realz, even when you’re used to it.
What a massive comment no-one is gonna read half of this but I’m writing it more for myself I guess.