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- privacy@programming.dev
Saw this in my adguard home query logs.
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the crypto browser? it’s not private and never was
Why I recommend against Brave - Luca Bramè.
This article is a pretty good breakdown of why you shouldn’t use Brave.
That’s the lie they try to sell you.
I swear Brave ran a very successful guerrilla marketing campaign and it succeeded on Reddit. If you so much as question it or suggest an alternative, you get dogpiled on by Brave bros. I don’t trust it one bit. I’ll stick to FF and its forks.
Yeah, haven’t they done a ton of shady shit? I always cringe when people recommend the Brave browser. It’s like recommending a free VPN.
Brave is a protection racket wrapped in a cryptocurrency scam, created by a bigoted fuckwit. It is fractally shit.
Apparently Brave’s got some cryptocurrency components, so I guess that’s where the cult-like following is.
Exactly. Same with Opera GX whatever, which is just a weird chinese spying chrome, with nothing to do with Opera from the good old days when it was still Norwegian (Vivaldi is made by those guys still).
PrivacyGuides being among those bros.
Just use Firefox for gods sakes, Brave is a complete joke of a browser especially when it comes to privacy.
Firefox is great. Librewolf if you’re extra keen on privacy.
Yes, a lot of people believe it, FF devs discuting in Google groups, Vivaldi in a own Mastodon instance. Mozilla since time is an Google pet which can’t survive without the support from Google.
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43340948
- https://groups.google.com/g/google-web-toolkit/c/QSEjbhhHB4g
It’s not the engine which use a browser, all engines are 100% FLOSS, it is important what you do with it.
Brave (the company) has a long history of doing dodgy stuff. They are just trying to do what Google did (directing clicks to their own shit), but they’re using privacy as their marketing spiel.
Not so much no
Can you suggest a better alternative browser for android?
IronFox
How does IronFox compare to LibreWolf?Am dumb, missed the “for android” part.
The first browser on this list is Brave lmao
There is at least one more 🙂
Brave is a scam.
I’ve never really had a comfortable feeling about Brave. I have no substantiating evidence, it just seems a bit squirrely. Besides the Tor browser, LibreWolf, Waterfox, and FireFox are the only acceptable browsers as far as I’m concerned, tho I don’t come down on those seeking an alternative to Google Chrome.
Any alternative to brave in iOS with adblocker? (I know, probably use another OS)
Far as I remember any browser in iOS is a scam anyways because Apple forces any browser in their platform to be based off of the same engine as Safari.
Yea, fuck webkit
AFAIK at least in the EU because have to admit also browsers with a different engine as WebKit. WebKit is same as Blink a fork from the KHTML engine by KDE, butway less advanced as Blink or Gecko, who outscore WebKit in modern webformats. This is why Apple don’t want other browsers which make Safari obsolete. Anyway, sooner or later Safari will be the next IE.
Sooner or later? They already are lol
Yes, but I won’t be so harsh
Orion can use Chrome and Firefox plugins. Works great!
General practice, I do not use my phone as a compute platform. I realize others cannot do the same all the time. I do run firefox and a VPN which has an adblocker as part of it’s tool set.
Vivaldi for iOS, it has an inbuild ad- and trackerblocker
Librefox has been awesome. Once you get the hang of enabling cookies for specific sites it mostly just works. Although Fastmail keeps logging me out for some reason
no, brave is just another crypto scam
No. At least not in the way most people expect.
It does block some tracking and ads that Chrome alone allows or explicitly adds. But it simply shifts that tracking to Brave. The idea was that you’d still get the benefits of that tracking by giving all of your data to Brave instead. I honestly never was convinced by this considering your data is still being sold, just by a different company so it doesn’t sound much better to me. Supposedly, according to them, Brave is more trustworthy and gives you more control over what they track and sell, but I don’t trust that business model. There’s no real incentive for them to do what they said they would.
Isn’t Brave just a crypto scam? I have no clue why people trust it so much
It gets pushed often by reactionaries as an “anti-woke” browser LOL its a complete piece of shit. It’s got crypto, tracking, NFTs, AI and ads baked in. Literally everything I hate about the tech industry rolled up into one package. I’d rather use Chrome, even.
anti-woke
I find it quite interesting those who protest being woke. The word ‘woke’ has a long standing meaning to the Black community. The usual suspects using the word ‘anti-woke’ are almost always American Republicans, and their track record of racial animosity has preceded itself for generations like the stench of a rotting corpse. Given the choice between being woke or asleep, I’ll take woke any day.
People sadly believe so. Firefox, a few addons and you are good to go.
It boggles my mind how people still recommend Brave as a good browser for privacy.
The entire point of Brave from the beginning was their own Crypto currency that they wanted to shill.
In their early days they offered a bunch of Tech YouTubers some crypto (via affiliate links) in return for them shilling brave.Brave is basically just yet another Chromium reskin with custom branding, extra tracking and crypto bullshit bolted to it.
No, the builtin AdBlocker does not make it “worth it”. Stop recommending this pile of crap.
No.
It sold out on it’s privacy promise years ago. Brave Browser CANNOT be trusted if you are someone who must ensure Privacy Preserving featurs must remain on at all times.
I recommend the Tor Browser. DO NOT USE THE TOR BROWSING CAPABILITIES OF BRAVE! YOU WILL BE DEANONYMIZED! Likely anything you’d be using Tor for, you don’t want your browser slipping up and leaking anything.
Personally I use a blend of hand-hardened Firefox (Via plugins), Librewolf and Ungoogled Chromium (for very rare cases where the site is actually trusted and requires Chrome to function predictably)
Brave is like the ExpressVPN of browsers
Librefox then? Or what are you guys using?
Vivaldi. The tab management is unparalleled, and the chrome extensions I depend on still work. I’ve been using it for many years now and have no regrets. I also use NextDNS and see no signs of it doing anything unexpected.
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I’m a grown adult and can check for updates my own damn self. This phone-home telemetry in the guise of updating bullshit needs to stop
Then use an actual private browser and not some techbro cryptobrowser.
Name them.
They have already been named in other comments. you’re a grownup, you could probably read them yourself.
Only one other was named and its not sufficient because its not truly private. Please name them
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Wait a minute. How did they collect those statistics?
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Don’t a lot of browsers by default have pings set up to track usage? Check the privacy section. There is usually a check box about sending daily pings to whatever company made the browser to track usage.
Not sure about the
variationsthoughAny browser does it, it is needed for several reasons, every browser need to know the amount of users it has to calculate it’s market share. But statistical telemetries are not a privacy issue, it’s like an employee which count the amount of cars and trucks on a highway, to know if it is needed to enlarge the highway or not. A browser need to know it for its capacity of servers and sync, if they offer it. Normally the telemetries includes in which OS is used the browser and in which country, all this is legit and not a privacy problem.
Bad only when it also include logs and profiling of user data and activity, as Chrome and EDGE do, and worse if this is sold to third parties. Decent browser don’t do it.
