Timothy Murray lost his father earlier this year and had been asking his principal for counseling when she called in the police

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    11 months ago

    However, forcing an action is stronger than denying an action

    Why?

    As long as it is a separate entity that is living and functional with a probability of future conscious experience

    Do you consider a fertilized egg to have the same moral weight as a person?

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      11 months ago

      Because denying an action is simply requiring that the existing circumstance continue, while forcing an action is to require that the person engage in a conscious action (to specify, it’s a stronger control over someone else’s body).

      “Do you consider a fertilised egg to have the same moral weight as a person”

      I already answered this more generally, fertilisation is not the revelant part it is that it is a distinct organism with a reasonable expectation of future conscious experience. Many fertilised eggs do meet this standard, but not all. Likewise fertilised eggs are not the only things that meet this standard. Things like pluripotent stem cells that are being created to form fetuses, also meet this standard.

      (I strongly suspect that you are fishing for a specific response, which you find absurd despite ultimately accepting all the premises.)

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        11 months ago

        I strongly suspect that you are fishing for a specific response, which you find absurd despite ultimately accepting all the premises.

        I’m not. I thought you were pretty clear, but I wanted to check. I’m sort of exploring what you believe, rather than fishing for anything in particular.

        So, in your view, if a building were burning, and inside was an artificial womb of some sort with twenty viable eggs that will eventually become people, then would there be a moral duty to save them over one five-year-old child?

        presupposing that bodily autonomy is morally relevant

        Do you believe that it isn’t?