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The point is that the infrastructure is a WAY more important factor than weather, but weather is cited as a major factor for sticking with car infrastructure.
Ok yeah I get the point but like…I’ve literally went places on my bike and got sweaty and stinky because it was too hot.
It’s the reason I decided to spend a decent chunk of change on an electrification kit for my bike, along with some tools needed to install the kit. Now 30 min bike ride is a lot easier to do with a torque sensing motor and with exceptions of ice, extreme heat, and mud (no disks brakes) I’ll bike instead of drive.
But still, the weather is a concern because physics still exist
It’s not just about cycling or walking. In an ideal city, you can just walk to a tram, metro or bus and then enjoy a air conditioned journey. The point of the video is to highlight how the common excuses of “the weather” or “city too big” are not valid reasons to just keep building roads and dismiss public transport, walkable spaces or cycling paths. Any city will benefit from good people-first design, regardless if it’s cold or hot, dry or wet, big or small.
Public transit is 1000x more useful it serves people of all physical ability and age is 1000x safer and actually gets used by a substantial majority where its useful in design and capacity
It’s very important, but being able to make a journey end to end without it is just as important. Good cycling and walking routes can be used by mobility scooters too and while it may never be 100% accessible for everyone, it will be for the large majority, which makes it critical infrastructure.
The issue is kinda with people thinking they will always gonna be riding in the middle of the day but in reality their commute mostly happened in 8am and then back home at 5:30pm something, which kinda defeat the excuse of “it’s hot”.
Yes, it’s hot between 11am to 4pm, but i think currently people just couldn’t take anything that isn’t a 26°c and below office or home or mall or car environment, which kinda makes outside even hotter because of all the AC and car. It’s really a vicious cycle.
I live on the equator and tropical region, so the heat peak around 12pm to 3pm where the sun is directly above, around 32-33°c, 70% humidity, 85-90% on a really bad day. We don’t have summer, we only have monsoon which is the legit reason to not bike, because when it rain it rain hard.
School kid still ride their bike to school, and motorcycle is the most popular transport, with around the same amount of car and motorcycle on the road.
Yes, infra is basically the deciding factor for biking, and public transport hostility against bicycle is also one. Imagine you use your bicycle as a the last mile for both destination but the train company says you can’t bring your bike.
Here in Phoenix/the Valley very few people would bike when it’s 110°+ in the summer. But it doesn’t matter because we have snowbirds and there’s less traffic in the summer so it’s okay to take a lane away from cars on every road for bike infrastructure.
i mean you can just wipe yourself down with a wet towel or some wet wipes, yeah it’s not supremely convenient but it really shouldn’t be any sort of a dealbreaker.
I would need a whole different city. Most days here if I spend 30 minutes outside in the shade I am a sweaty mess.
There are some employers where I could shower on premise, but not most. And most of the places I’ve lived a bike ride would be 1-6 hours. I think I lived half and hours bike ride from work maybe 1 year of the past 10.
i support alternate means of transportation and would love if our cities were designed for walking but i’m not biking to work for 30+ min in 101 degree
70%+ humidity weather
I think the heat is a vaild excuse unless you are walking/biking to a place with showers.
Electrifying my bicycle made a 30 min bike ride a lot less sweaty but in 90°F weather, I’m going to be stinky no matter what I do outside.
Did you watch the video?
The point is that the infrastructure is a WAY more important factor than weather, but weather is cited as a major factor for sticking with car infrastructure.
Ok yeah I get the point but like…I’ve literally went places on my bike and got sweaty and stinky because it was too hot.
It’s the reason I decided to spend a decent chunk of change on an electrification kit for my bike, along with some tools needed to install the kit. Now 30 min bike ride is a lot easier to do with a torque sensing motor and with exceptions of ice, extreme heat, and mud (no disks brakes) I’ll bike instead of drive.
But still, the weather is a concern because physics still exist
I think ebikes are the future and use one regularly myself.
But even then, I rarely go outside the bike lane network because riding around cars fucking sucks.
It’s not just about cycling or walking. In an ideal city, you can just walk to a tram, metro or bus and then enjoy a air conditioned journey. The point of the video is to highlight how the common excuses of “the weather” or “city too big” are not valid reasons to just keep building roads and dismiss public transport, walkable spaces or cycling paths. Any city will benefit from good people-first design, regardless if it’s cold or hot, dry or wet, big or small.
This is true.
Public transit is 1000x more useful it serves people of all physical ability and age is 1000x safer and actually gets used by a substantial majority where its useful in design and capacity
It’s very important, but being able to make a journey end to end without it is just as important. Good cycling and walking routes can be used by mobility scooters too and while it may never be 100% accessible for everyone, it will be for the large majority, which makes it critical infrastructure.
The issue is kinda with people thinking they will always gonna be riding in the middle of the day but in reality their commute mostly happened in 8am and then back home at 5:30pm something, which kinda defeat the excuse of “it’s hot”.
Yes, it’s hot between 11am to 4pm, but i think currently people just couldn’t take anything that isn’t a 26°c and below office or home or mall or car environment, which kinda makes outside even hotter because of all the AC and car. It’s really a vicious cycle.
Do you live somewhere where it gets hot? Because at least here in the summer the heat peaks at like 5 pm. And won’t start cooling down until 8ish.
I live on the equator and tropical region, so the heat peak around 12pm to 3pm where the sun is directly above, around 32-33°c, 70% humidity, 85-90% on a really bad day. We don’t have summer, we only have monsoon which is the legit reason to not bike, because when it rain it rain hard.
School kid still ride their bike to school, and motorcycle is the most popular transport, with around the same amount of car and motorcycle on the road.
it’s hot even past sunset in the us
Urban heat trap i presume?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_heat_island
It happened here as well, it’s not unique to US.
Also do you not shower when get home
honestly going home would be fine, long as it was under heat stroke temps more an issue going to work in an office
infrastructure is the real breaker, so many dead bikers
Yes, infra is basically the deciding factor for biking, and public transport hostility against bicycle is also one. Imagine you use your bicycle as a the last mile for both destination but the train company says you can’t bring your bike.
I go for walks/runs after dark due to scheduling but I take 2 months off during the summer because 90+ degrees is too hot for serious exercise.
Here in Phoenix/the Valley very few people would bike when it’s 110°+ in the summer. But it doesn’t matter because we have snowbirds and there’s less traffic in the summer so it’s okay to take a lane away from cars on every road for bike infrastructure.
i mean you can just wipe yourself down with a wet towel or some wet wipes, yeah it’s not supremely convenient but it really shouldn’t be any sort of a dealbreaker.
This is a ridiculous statement that somehow you don’t realize is ridiculous
I would need a whole different city. Most days here if I spend 30 minutes outside in the shade I am a sweaty mess.
There are some employers where I could shower on premise, but not most. And most of the places I’ve lived a bike ride would be 1-6 hours. I think I lived half and hours bike ride from work maybe 1 year of the past 10.
fuck no
i support alternate means of transportation and would love if our cities were designed for walking but i’m not biking to work for 30+ min in 101 degree 70%+ humidity weather