How is this possible?

    • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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      Lemmy does support deleting comments. Federation of deletes seems rather unstable, but it should work.

      Images are still visible, of course, at least until the pull request fixing this gets deployed to servers people are on.

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        Just like on Facebook, when you delete a comment on Lemmy it gets stuck with a “deleted” flag that’s possible to undo on some clients, including the official one last time I did it.

        To be fair, your incredulity is totally understandable. I think we should fix Lemmy too.

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        8 months ago

        That has nothing to do with federation - I can still read deleted comments that other users of my instance posted in local communities

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      I think part of the issue is that you can undo the deletion of your own posts, which is a nice feature to have.

      Maybe what we need is:

      • hide: does what “delete” does now
      • delete: with a warning that the action is irreversible

      Add in a warning when posting or commenting that hiding/deleting may not federate

  • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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    8 months ago

    Some apps, especially Sync, will download one or more pages of content for quick interaction to local storage. If you download that stuff before they get deleted, they’re on your phone.

    Some foreign servers either don’t receive deletes, bug out when dealing with deletes, or refuse to do the delete. It’s kind of a dice roll whether or not actually get removed from other servers after deletion. If your home server didn’t delete the comment that another home server asked to delete, and your app connects to your home server, the comment will stick around of course.

    If you want to delete stuff from Lemmy, a) assume it doesn’t work (because malicious servers can just ignore deletion requests) and b) edit your comment to be near-empty before hitting the delete button, as edits seem to propagate the fediverse much better. This still won’t purge your comment from any malicious server, of course, as all ActivityPub messages between servers are normally requests, not commands.

    Also, be aware that server administrators (of any server connected to the server you posted on) can see deleted comments, and even restore them locally.

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        Content of deleted comment:

        Try this comment that I’m going to delete.

        I use boost as it shows deleted comments as “deleted by creator”, but you can reply to deleted comments and when you do you can see and quote it

        Just like I have now. So what I assume is happening is that the backend just marks the comment as deleted and leaves everything in place, and it’s up to the front end to handle that.

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            Yeah - personally I don’t mind it this way. To me, “Deleted by creator” is simply something more along the lines of, “I’d like to retract my previous statement”.

            Sometimes I get curious and reply to a deleted comment to see what they said, but generally I let it slide.

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              Sounds like you have too stable of a temperament to be a Lemmy server admin to me. Just wait until I tell you what I know about the guy who built a server just to downvote someone else on here, the one platform where downvotes don’t matter.

              spoiler

              This is not a bit. I found someone who did that.

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                8 months ago

                I can only look at that and dream of having such incredible levels of pettiness.

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              The problem with that is that comments that are removed by moderators behave the same way - that might actually cause legal problems if someone posts something that you’re obligated to remove instead of just hiding it