• davel@lemmy.ml
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    We’re very butthurt about our failed color revolution, and we’re very concerned that we can’t even manage to make lemonade out of our lemon.

    Westerners, every time:

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    The people that try to equate fake genocide with real genocide are like the school staff punishing bully and victim alike. They are enabling the abuses. Also it must be deeply insulting to the real victims in gaza.

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    Yeah like frig China. Why aren’t you killing them? Whats wrong with you? Clearly the most morally correct thing to do is exterminate them, what are you trying to hide?

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      The US liberates muslims (from the mortal coil) while China enslaves muslims (by making them part of the productive forces).

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    “Our genocides are the good genocides” thinking persisting this long is baffling. Even more disturbing is these people are in power.

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      Is it though? People hear what they want to hear and believe what they want to believe. No one wants to believe that their privileges are predicated on suffering elsewhere.

      Westerners in particularly have always been very “heads in the sand” when it comes to modern history but it’s not surprising. Every nation struggles with the darker aspects of their history.

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    Genocide is bad. If your ideology prevents you from agreeing with that statement, you are a monster.

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      Nobody here is denying that genocide is bad, what’s in question is what the US Empire says is happening vs what is actually happening. The US Empire has lied before, such as the babies taken from incubators story or Iraq’s WMD, but it was only long after the dust had begun to settle in Iraq that the liberals started to agree with the leftists that the evidence was actually insufficient after all.

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      Genocide IS bad, but the “muslim genocide” in China is nothing but a CIA op, as usual

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    So concerned that we bribed foreign terrorists to blow shit up in Xinjiang, forcing China to spend on education and job programs there.

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      These people, who don’t know shit about fuck, are absolutely sure that they already know everything that needs to be known, and that we don’t know shit about fuck.

      And in twenty years they’ll say they knew it all along.

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        Please elaborate: where’s the racism?

        This has been the US playbook since before we were born, and funding, arming, and influencing Salafi jihadists in particular has been going on since at least the 1980s. Previously:

        6 December 1993: Anti-Soviet warrior puts his army on the road to peace

        FAIR: Forgotten Coverage of Afghan ‘Freedom Fighters’ But the U.S. government and the American press have not always opposed Afghan extremists. During the 1980s, the Mujahiddin guerrilla groups battling Soviet occupation had key features in common with the Taliban. In many ways, the Mujahiddin groups acted as an incubator for the later rise of the Taliban in the 1990s.

        Despite CIA denials of any direct Agency support for Bin Laden’s activities, a considerable body of circumstantial evidence suggests the contrary. During the 1980s, Bin Laden’s activities in Afghanistan closely paralleled those of the CIA. Bin Laden held accounts in the Bank for Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), the bank the CIA used to finance its own covert actions. Bin Laden worked especially closely with Hekmatyar—the CIA’s favored Mujahiddin commander. In 1989, the U.S. shipped high-powered sniper rifles to a Mujahiddin faction that included bin Laden, according to a former bin Laden aide.

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    Listen, I’m sure there’s a very good reason why we have radically different policies towards Afghani Muslims and Uyghur Muslims, despite the fact they share a border and a litany of cultural practices.

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    lol seriously. Most obvious propaganda scam of all time. Libs fell hook line and sinker though.

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    Translation, we are very concerned because someone else is doing the killing, they took ur, joooobsss

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    Hot take:

    The US has committed horrifying war crimes and crimes against humanity against Muslims and continues to do so.

    And so does China

    Its always fascinating to see the war between Nazis and Tankies fight over which imperial power is based, rather than demonstrating a working frontal lobe and damning both for their crimes.

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      And so does China

      The only “evidence” of this comes from the empire and is demonstrably false

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              Someone once put together a book titled, “One Hundred Authors Against Einstein.” Einstein dismissed the book with the quip, “Why one hundred? If I were really wrong, they’d only need one.”

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                Sounds like a colossal reach at best, and pathetic cope at worst.

                You understand the colossal differences between multiple independent journalists researching and reporting on the same topic, and a large organized group of pseudointellectuals trying to disprove a single person based on vibes alone, right?

                You seem to be very desperately, and pathetically holding onto a form of fallacy of composition:

                https://practicalpie.com/fallacy-of-composition/

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                  No, I’m simply calling out a lazy gish gallop. It’s the same in both cases.

                  How many sources are listed on the Wikipedia page for Christianity? If I accept your logic as valid, it seems I’ll have to convert.

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            Wikipedia is one of the most reliable sources of public information, most especially do to the international collaboration efforts on it.

            You can’t just dismiss a source on the basis that you don’t like it. You need to provide actual evidence that the source is untrustworthy

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              Wikipedia is one of the most reliable sources of public information

              Yeah if you’re looking up wood joints and math theorems. Not if you’re trying to learn anything about politics or history that ties into the interests of the systems and institutions that filter the media allowed as valid citations.

              You need to provide actual evidence that the source is untrustworthy

              Do they ban the New York Times because they lied the country into every war it’s been in since McKinley?

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          Not only has China been an imperialist regional super power for the majority of its lo g history, but simply ask Taiwan, the Uyghurs, Tibet, Hong Kong, Vietnam or any of the various countries China is practicing neocolonialism in in Africa or Island nations

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            This is fanfiction. China isn’t practicing neocolonialism in Africa, it’s engaging in south-south trade that is actually helping African countries escape the trappings of western imperialism. Taiwan was invaded by the KMT when they lost the war, and took over the island. The Xinjiang and Tibet are both doing well and support the PRC, and Hong Kong is gradually doing better now that they aren’t under British colonial rule. Vietnam is a strong trade partner with China.

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    Valid meme but hopefully it doesn’t minimize the plight of Uyghurs in peoples minds.

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      The west sanctioned xinjiang, making it harder to sell their stuff.

      This is the real plight. The west always hurts people, regardless of what they say they do.

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      Oh cool, you also gargle propaganda from an evangelical nutjob Adrian Zens and from the U.S State Department on it’s number-one global rival. Very analytical and socialist of you.

      There is no “plight”, the U.N found nothing and reported nothing. Again and again, people like you do the work of the feds back in the 50s-60s.