• theneverfox@pawb.social
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    2 days ago

    Yes, you’ve thoroughly worn out my desire to keep talking to you… That meme wasn’t an attempt at a burn, it’s a genuine expression of what this whole conversation has felt like from my side. I’m pretty happy with how it came out, it was snappy and I thought it really captured the emotion

    I feel like I’d be punching down if I tone matched with you, so I’m just going to leave it here. I hope your life gets better

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      Yeah, you keep saying things like “genuine” and “in good faith” and “you’re delusional”, but we both know you’re saying those because you want to pretend you believe them. Not because either of us actually believes you do.

      You can’t address the things you’ve said, because that would completely crash that delusion. That’s why you can’t address how fucking dumb it was of you to claim “you’re delusional to think you could pass the citizenship test”. That’s why you can’t address the fact I have American relatives. I’ve not physically been, that much is true. Again, most of your time is spent watching a screen. Do you think the things you get on that screen are exclusive to the US? I have plenty of American friends. A couple of relatives only, 50-60 year old aunties from my mom’s side. And their father, who was pretty much like 100 the last time I saw him so RIP prolly, but he actually spoke Finnish, albeit with an weirdly old accent, as his parents had emigrated from Finland.

      But will you address the fact that I simply understand the US faaaaaaaaaaar better than you understand Finland? No, you fucking won’t. You say things like; “But I do know your laws and outcome statistics. I know which laws and programs I want for my country. Like driving around homeless people…”

      You literally think we drive around homeless people for free? And you call me delusional? Oh wait, why does it feel like I’m repeating myself? Oh wait, right, because I am, because you’re a coward who keeps avoiding his own words, because you can’t stand by any of them, because you write your comments while having intense emotions, and you complete lack any sort of ability to edit your words and then you end up regretting them, but you can’t possibly admit to that, so you completely avoid everything you’ve said.

      Yeah uhm, you’re literally talking to yourself. You don’t believe the things you’re saying. If you did, you could actually address what you yourself have said. “But I do know your laws and outcome statistics. I know which laws and programs I want for my country. Like driving around homeless people…”

      You’ve at most read a couple of articles about Finland. Yet you pretend like I understand America because I’ve seen some movies? No man, I live and breathe your disgusting culture, unfortunately. I can’t help but to be part of English society, and I can somewhat choose to prefer UK shows and movies, but I can’t change the fact that Trump is a disgusting piece of shit who’s constantly spewing out even dumber shit than you. And that’s your literal leader. You understand how dumb the world considers Trump, but also you know how delusional he is? You’re the exact same, my man.

      That’s why you can’t answer why you say things like "But I do know your laws and outcome statistics. I know which laws and programs I want for my country. Like driving around homeless people… " when you clearly don’t, as the things you say are completely bonkers. :DD And you won’t be able to address your mistakes.

      Yeah, you’re starting to get to the “you think I’m reading all that” phase I told you about days ago. Then you’ll devolve into “lol, k” or some such bullshit, and still you won’t accept that you’re here only because your ego is hurt and that you’re not engaging in good faith.

      I am. :)

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        Because your gishgalloping everywhere. I was willing to play along with you for a while and see if there was some common thread, but I still have no idea what you’re on about and you’re being increasingly insulting

        And I don’t even know they’re you’re going with this. Of course your know more about America than I know about Finland. We’re America. No one can ignore the collapsing global empire

        I’m pretty sure I straight up said as much a half dozen times…

        What I can’t get over is how confidently wrong you are about America. You’re the one who has learned of my country through media and thinks themselves some kind of expert, at least I learned about the Nordic countries in university through the lens of sociology. It’s a soft science, but it’s science

        And if I can’t shake you on that point, what is there to talk about? I can’t find any common ground between us.

        So yeah. This isn’t a constructive or interesting conversation, so why bother?

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          Because your gishgalloping everywhere

          It’s actually “you’re”, a contraction of “you are”, btw.

          How do you reason that you’re not deluding yourself when you write things like that to a person who keeps repeating the same two or three questions. Literally, I repeated three times in the last comment how you said

          “But I do know your laws and outcome statistics. I know which laws and programs I want for my country. Like driving around homeless people…”

          You do not. You say things which aren’t true. I say things which are true. We both know that. You might not understand what you’re doing, but I do. I know you’re just locked in because your (see, that’s the correct use of “your”) feelings got hurt, because I said you’re (see?) emotional.

          “You wouldn’t pass the citizenship test, you just wouldn’t, you’re delusional!”

          A bit too much of a coward to stand behind anything you’ve said. Just like I said in the last comment, you’re talking to yourself mate. And despite saying “that’s it, I’m done” (which by the way, so on point for this point, I’ve seen it, again, thousands of times), you’re replying, because your (remember which one to use) ego got hurt. And you simply can’t accept that.

          You’d have to humble yourself a bit to get away with any respect from this. You can’t. You’ve replied with “you fucking retard” and “you’re delusional to think you could pass the American citizenship test” and "“But I do know your laws and outcome statistics. I know which laws and programs I want for my country. Like driving around homeless people…”

          You can’t point to a single thing I would’ve said that would’ve been inaccurate, yet this autistic screeching that “wyaaaah you just don’t understand”. Like you said, we’re not on the same level. Not even close. That’s why I’ve been able to predict your actions so easily, because I’ve seen versions of this tantrum a million times.

          Keep doing it though, I’m sure you can recover from “WYAAAA FUCKING RETARD FUCK FUCK FUCKING RETARD WYYYAAA”

          Haha.

          “But I do know your laws and outcome statistics. I know which laws and programs I want for my country. Like driving around homeless people…”

          So what fucking program in Finland drives around homeless people? None that I know of, and I’ve searched for such, IN FINNISH. Something you’re incapable of even admitting you’re incapable of, despite it being painfully obvious to everyone. Especially when you keep projecting your emotions. “You’re gishgalloping everywhere!” … oh whops, that’s not the verbatim quote, it’s “Because your gishgalloping everywhere”. I keep literally repeating things over and over and over and over. And you just dance to my tune, right to my tune. I bet you’re not even reading the comments anymore. Which should tell you that you’re done, as in, you’ve taken a massive L, but you simply can’t control your ego. :DD childish. (luckily for me, since I enjoy this. ;> making you humiliate yourself.)

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            I have no idea where the citizenship test thing came from. I said border security would instantly lock you in a room and eventually deport you if you came to the US because of your weed charges. That’s just true… And I wanted to squash that idea when you sounded like you might want to come here. It would be bad, and I don’t want that for anyone

            And you’re the one who said you had a job driving around the homeless! I even followed up to say I didn’t know what that means, but that the idea of giving the homeless rides to medical appointments seems like a good idea

            See? No common ground. What are we even talking about?

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              I have no idea where the citizenship test thing came from

              And again, with the pretending that you have amnesia. You’re not lying to me or the internet, lil’ fella, you’re lying to yourself.

              “You think you could pass the citizenship test? You’re delusional.”

              That’s you. You said that. That’s wrong. Will you be able to accept you were wrong? Of course not, just like I said days ago.

              You’re just here clinging to your ego. You haven’t engaged in good faith for a couple of days now, avoiding pretending you can’t see (or you’re literally just too lazy/illiterate to read a few lines lol) most of my text. That’s the “you think I’m reading that” bit you’re getting into.

              See, because now I’ll have to ask, for the umpteenth time, why do you talk about border control? That would only matter if I ever had an intention of stepping a foot in your shithole, which I’ve kept a constant stance on; I will not be doing that. You know I’ve repeated, again and again, and again and again and again. Like with everything else as well (like you deluding yourself that homeless people get free rides in Finland xDDDD address that you pathetic coward), you’re simply pretending that you don’t understand that HAVING THE KNOWLEDGE to do something doesn’t equal you actually DOING it. A surgeon knows a million ways to kill you. Does that mean that there’s one behind your door, lurking, with a scalpel? ;DDD

              you had a job driving around the homeless!

              Nope. I said I drove around the homeless in my job. I can see how with your (remember which one to use) limited English you can’t see the difference. If a cop told you they drive around homeless people in their job, would you think they’re doing it out of the goodness of their heart? No. Because that would be a moronic assumption. Just like you keep making. And then projecting that I’m making them, despite you not being able to point to a single thing I’ve said that would be inaccurate or supposely showed a twisted view of US society or culture. Not a SINGLE one.

              And that’s why you’re so angry. Having a tantrum that you lost an imaginary argument you had in your head, meanwhile in reality, you’ve just been stomping your feet and crying. You’re dumber than these fucking cops lol and that’s saying something.

              Will you be able to address the fact you called me delusional, despite me acing any and all practice tests put to me? Will you ever admit that you’re even capable of making mistakes? No. Is that utterly ridiculous, avoiding admitting a mistake when everyone can see you’ve made one? Yeah. Very much so. Very early-20’s of you. Where were you during 9/11? Or were you just a thought in your daddy’s head? Or are you just like actually like, totally an adult, and you were only sucking your moms tits and just can’t remember anything?

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                you had a job driving around the homeless!

                Nope. I said I drove around the homeless in my job. I can see how with your (remember which one to use) limited English you can’t see the difference.

                What the fuck are you on about? You haven’t provided context! I expressed a lack of context!

                If you really want to know where I was on 9/11, I was in school. It was very weird.

                I don’t know how to connect to you as a human being. I’m certain I’ve never said you couldn’t pass the citizenship test, because that’s not the hard part. The hard part is the process that takes years

                Do you want me to be mean to you? Is that what this is? Because I’ve got weak spots, you’re just miles away from them

                The one thing you’ve communicated to me is where your weak spots are. It’s your mother. It’s respect. It’s isolation. I could be very cruel, and I have no desire to be.

                I’m genuinely asking… Do you want to be torn down? I understand how it can be healing, but it won’t feel good for me. But I’ll do it if that’s what you need.

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                  I expressed a lack of context!

                  No. You implied one. There’s a marked difference. You can just ask me if you’d like. You know, how I keep asking you things, but you keep avoiding answering them? Yet you get pissed at me not expressly detailing something you haven’t even asked for, after you’ve said “I can’t answer any of your questions, because your just gishgalloping everywhere”?

                  That’s hilarious. This is why I do this. Every individual meltdown like yours teaches me something new about the human psyche.

                  “I was in school” right yeah. Because a vague answer like that definitely means that you remember it? Being “in school” could mean anything from kindergarten to university. But you know that. That’s why you chose those words. Because it’s vague. Honestly, I’d put a bet on that being a lie. I can’t prove it, but I would bet on it. I’m not much of a betting man but I seem to do excellently when it comes to twerps like you, who can’t handle just reading and writing without getting emotional.

                  “You’ve indicated where your weak spots are” what is this, some fucking PVP game? You’re trying to use psychology, because you feel hurt that I pointed out you’re doing classic projection. So now you’re even more hurt, and have also realised that the “YOU FUCKING RETARD” approach doesn’t exactly work. Sooner or later, you’ll devolve into “lol, k” or something, until you get mad enough and block me. Which you definitely should’ve done already, but you simply can’t.

                  Just like you can’t address your own words.

                  “Do you want to be torn down” uh, yes, that’s why I have a fucking therapist? There’s literally nothing you could say that would ever even come close to hurting me. You’re like a chihuahua who doesn’t understand how small he is, and it’s extremely ironic, because this is the thread where you have a meltdown and cry “NO, YOU JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND!!!11!!!1! ://///” then when being repeatedly asked what specifically don’t I understand, you gishgallop everywhere and despite you doing that and screeching “RETARD” at me, I haven’t gotten even slightly upset at any point. I just enjoy reading and especially writing. That’s clearly not the case for you.

                  That’s why it’s so easy for me to predict your every move. Like how you keep avoiding actually answering any question. After being prodded a hundred times you managed one vague non-answer answer. And you think everyone doesn’t see that you’re deluding yourself? :D

                  Just like you now proceeded to reply, without actually admitting you’re even capable of EVER being mistaken in ANYTHING.

                  I’m certain I’ve never said you couldn’t pass the citizenship test

                  Fucking omegalol

                  edit oh wait that’s not how you kids like your memes here

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                    Again, WE DON’T HAVE COMMON GROUND

                    You didn’t say you wanted me to rip into you, you said you have a therapist. And so I’m not going to, because I have compassion.

                    Yes, I was in school. I specifically said university. My ideas stand on their own.

                    Again, you whether or not you could pass the citizenship test is meaningless. You’re delusional if you think you’d be able to take it. What the fuck are you even taking about? It’s a years long process

                    I know what the immigration process is for a half dozen countries. Finland ain’t one of them. You’re just gishgalloping about

                    What do you think could be achieved here? Why do you want to keep talking? Are you that lonely?