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- You love giving your data away
- You enjoy being tracked by your operating system
- You’re happy when your computer tells you “no”
- You prefer someone else deciding what you can run
- You feel uncomfortable if you get to have options
- You’d rather battle corporate tech support
- You’d rather rent your software than own it
- You think ads belong on your desktop
- You love being lied to about what’s “industry standard”
- You like rebooting for every little update
- You’re uncomfortable when software is transparent
- You think community-made tools can’t be “professional”
- You want intrusive AI everywhere, whether it helps or not
- You think the command line is only for hackers
- You never really wanted your computer to be yours anyway
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Oh shit! That’s what we were missing all along! That’s what has, all this time, been keeping adoption down and preventing the year of the linux desktop! A condescending prick talking down to people! We should have figured this out a long time ago! Thanks OP for setting us straight! Now our numbers are sure to skyrocket!
This article likely came from a very sad and self-righteous place
Shh we’re trying to circlejerk here! Keep your voice of reason down and grab some lotion
ItsFoss is getting shittier by the day
- You own an AMD GPU and want to use your fancy HDMI 2.1 monitor / TV
Most of these are not about the Linux kernel, but about distro / personal choice. Android tracks you and doesn’t make you use the command-line a lot. Fedora / Ubuntu (and others?) like to reboot for every little update.
I’ve had Fedora encourage me to reboot, but I don’t think I’ve ever had it do so without consent (excluding when my laptop battery died).
CachyOS suggests a reboot but also doesn’t demand.
#3 is what does it for me. There are few things more enraging than something I own refusing to do what I’m instructing it to do.
The penguin drawing kinda looks AI.
This is just masturbation.
No, because at least with masturbation, you have something to show for it at the end.
YEOMK
No that’s exercise
Oh, it’s just a list of pro Linux items but in reverse psychology… Kay.
I’m already a Linux user, I was kinda curious about a listing of actual reasons Linux might not be for someone.
Not just reverse psychology, I can’t imagine anyone agreeing with most of these. It’s definitely got a holier-than-thou attitude. Like who is this even written for other than people who already use Linux and just want to feel smugly superior?
Linux users? Being holier than thou? Say it ain’t so!
I use arch btw
Exactly, it just reads like a smug rant.
actual reasons:
- want to use some specific program or game only available for another os
- lazy, dumb or afraid of computer stuff.
- can’t decide from 10,000 different distributions
Perfectly valid. 👌
#2 is the cause of #1 & #3 so you only really listed 1 reason.
As a long time linux user, antagonizing people who are unsure if the switch is right for them is very clearly a poor interpersonal choice that will not result in the change we wanna see in the world, or more people adopting linux
Fuckin seriously, we can do better than this circle jerk. As someone who cares deeply about software being kinder to people it pains me enormously how much of a dump stat interpersonal skills are for so much of the Foss community
If the authors wanna pat themselves for linux they can do it without creating a unempathetic, condescending, preachy culture that alienates people.
Just call the article “things we love about having switched to linux” so it finds the right audience and its fine, but this shit sucks and its exactly the kind of crap that has made so many of my friends resistant to hearing what I think is good and special about Foss software. They hear me out anyway, but I’d love for it to not be a fucking uphill battle because Foss people routinely emulate the same preachy, condescending, unempathetic interpersonal apprach that everyone bemoans about the worst vegan spaces online
Well said
I’m really glad it seems like my thoughts have been appreciated, I was kinda mentally preparing myself for people to be unhappy with me
I find this kind of stuff frustrating enough I needed to edit my first version of the comment cause it was angrier, but I want people to actually hear me out and think about the culture we cultivate in the foss space. It really matters.
There are so many issues people care about (eg. Software freedom) specifically because we want a world that is kinder to people, and then we act on that value or interest in a way that isn’t kind to people. A little empathy goes a looong way
Thank you for the kind words, I hope you have a lovely day :)
Your points are valid, and if I saw this on a site like pcmag, medium or whatever, i would totally be on the same page. Still, how many “on the fence” people are likely to be here, on Lemmy, subscribed to a linux forum?
I chose to take it as snarky humor for the “in crowd”. Benefit: keeps my blood pressure manageable.
Im not subscribed to this forum, it appeared on the front page. Dude was right when he said linux users are the vegans of the tech world. I play video games with my friends almost every night, linux would complicate how I stay in touch with the people in my circle.
Point taken. I assure you at least some of us are not going to shame others for choosing something other than Linux. We know it’s not simple to switch and get a comfortable environment.
We’re just willing to do the work for various reasons that feel important to us, and will gladly evangelize it gently.
My thoughts were more about the article itself than it being posted here. Being an article it could really easily be something that comes up when someone is trying to figure out whether they can make the switch and are doing their research on pros and cons
I think personally I also just really don’t enjoy snarky in-group humor, it feels like it often just fosters resentment for those outside of the ingroup. So I do kinda have a bias in general
Indeed
This is exactly the kind of shit that keeps people from switching to Linux y’all know that right?
Yeah no its cos it breaks all the time.
And here I was, thinking this was a well thought out article with actual, legitimate reasons why someone wouldn’t want to use Linux. Instead, it’s this smug, autofellating, condescending bullshit. Roland Taylor has some issues.
I mean, #6 is accurate for me. I don’t have a humiliation fetish, so I’d rather pay people to tell me what I’m doing wrong instead of braving the barrage of belittlement that comes from asking for crowdsourced support.
And that’s completely valid and fair. Different strokes for different folks, as they say. But I do have to stress that I’m not so much criticising the bullet points as I am the general tone of the article. #6 should read like your reply, but instead it feels like the reader should feel bad for not wanting support from humans as opposed to an automated system.
Oh, I understand. I was trying to snarkily imply that the smug, autofellating, condescending attitude you mentioned was unfortunately endemic, to the point where it’s starting to feel like some people are secretly jorking it while telling newbs they suck. I think it’s a huge reason why people feel like FOSS isn’t for them.
You expected better from itsFoss? It has always been this way and it will always be
I’ll have to take your word for it. Truth be told, I don’t read much of their articles. And it looks like it’s going to stay that way.
Please, article writer, be a little more passive-aggressive.
This is exactly the kind of shit that turns people off.
- You start making weird passive aggressive lists to shame people into your preferred…whatever…
