Cause preachers can talk about Jihads against atheists on talk shows, but somebody says god isn’t real and everything they are connected to gets examined for not complying with the first amendment.
Yup. Even ‘tolerant’ religions go batshit when they encounter unbelievers. It’s like you can root for any team, but if you decline the entire sportsball thing, YOU GOTTA FUCKIN DIE
YOU GOTTA FUCKIN DIE
Bit hyperbolic (for most people lol)
It’s more like “you and everything you stand for is unbound by morality, and you pose a threat to my entire worldview through your thoughts and ideas alone.”
Yeah we should use something more politically correct like “you will burn in hell for eternity”
True lol, talking to my Christian friends about hell is wild. The worst people imaginable can go to eternal paradise if they believe in God, but queer agnostic atheists like me get eternal torture for thought crimes.
And they’ll openly admit that they don’t think I deserve hell, but they still call it just and moral if I get sent there. Which is incredible, because it seems like they feel like it’s wrong, yet won’t call it wrong because the morals created by the men who came before them are objectively right and can’t be questioned.
The other baffling thing is that they’ll say owning slaves is wrong now because those parts of the Bible are outdated, yet still say it’s just to torture homosexuals for eternity and cite those same “outdated” books of the Bible.
/rant
In my experience, theists would just want an individual to believe in anything instead of nothing.
“It’s ok, you don’t have to worry, I’ve been saved, First Pentagram Church of Manson, HELTER SKELTER BE HIS NAME!”
“Hallelujah!”
Haha. You joke but that is theist belief in a nutshell. Rather believe in anything to save one’s soul in the afterlife than nothing at all and not to go to heaven or some paradise.
Circling back to this - a thought occurred to me: if you buy into the grift on any side, you’re much more likely to convert to the ‘correct’ religion - whatever that is lol
We’re not afraid to come out, we just don’t talk about it because religion isn’t important to us and we don’t feel compelled to have everyone believe in the same thing as us.
Now may you be touched by thy noodley appendage
Just not even really worth ‘coming out’. Why deal with all the arguments that are likely to crop up from it? When I was the angsty teenage atheist I got off on that shit. Now…im over it.
A 2017 study found that people believe atheists are more likely to be serial killers than believers, even though federal data suggests they are far less likely to commit crimes than religious people.
Hmm.
One group uses the threat of eternal damnation to compel moral behaviour, the other has no external compulsion*.
Which group is likely to have more “good” members?
* Yeah, laws? Social etiquette?
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Maybe most of the people is simply disillusioned by religions, but not totally confident that there’s nothing at all.
In my case i’m more of a “hopefull” atheist. Considering the entropic and chaotic nature of the universe, the continuous predatory massacre that we call “life” and extreme difficulty to keep any state of equilibrium in this reality. I really don’t want to think of some sentient all-powerful being in charge of all this.
I see no more need to announce I don’t believe in the Christian god than there I see need to announce I don’t believe in Zeus. Both questions are completely irrelevant to my life
If I ever say it I specifically say “I don’t believe in any gods.” It’s not that I don’t believe in theirs specifically. They don’t believe in any others, so what’s the difference?
I wonder if it has anything to do with all of the “bad atheism” that’s populating the internet.
By this, I mean to say that actual TRUE atheism isn’t about hating Christians, but if you look here, and on Reddit- any community involving atheism is nothing but anti-Christian rhetoric. Not other religion- just Christianity. AND A LOT of hate.
Actual atheists don’t define their ideology based on who they hate. It’s simply just not believing in religious idolatry. Nothing more and nothing less.
So if you find yourself hating on someone simply because they believe differently than you do. Maybe ask yourself if any of that seems familiar to you at all. And then back away from the nonsense. Because maybe It’s you that’s making it difficult for the ideology of atheism to be taken seriously.
I see a fuck ton of ex-muslims on athiest forums which shit talk islam depending on the day even moreso than christianity, idk what you’re talking about with this “only christianity” stuff lol
I think we have different definitions of “fuck ton” because I guarantee you I’m on the same forums and I see one in every few hundred that might even mention Muslims.
But don’t let this get in the way of your exaggeration.
English language forums especially US centric forums are populated by people who overwhelming deal with bad behavior by Christians whereas others are small minorities which keep to themselves
So you’re saying that every angsty teenager that complains about Christianity has had some bad experience?
And that it’s predominantly US based?
Can you show the sources that support this please?
You are angry that atheists are very expressive of their disdain for Christianity. Most people you as an english speaker interact with on most online spaces are liable to be chock full of Americans whose primary negative view of religions are formed by interactions with Christians both because Christians are very vocal and very negative. Do you actually need a citation for the English using web being heavily biased towards the 338,000,000 Americans? If you find your way to the appropriate forums you could find angsty teens complaining about Hinduism or Islam.
So you have no sources. That’s what you’re saying?
You want proof that English speakers on social media are mostly from Christian dominant countries?
Try again.
Here is a map of dominant religions.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2012/12/18/global-religious-landscape-exec/
Note carefully which areas of the world are primarily Christian. Now consider a map from Wikipedia on what language articles written on a country are written in.
Its immediately obvious that there is a pretty big but not 100% overlap. It is pretty clear in context that the majority of the English speaking web (which isn’t the entire web by any means) is going to be composed of people living in Christian dominant areas.
Maybe if atheists didn’t abrasively proselytize so much, and denigrate every other faith, they’d feel more comfortable being in the open with their religion.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I sincerely hope this is a troll or sarcasm.
If you believe that your religion is the only valid one, and that the others need to go away, then you are as bad as an evangelical. Anti-theists are just the hypocritical mirror image of evangelicals.
Atheism isn’t a religion bud.
It’s becoming one.
No it isn’t. It has no tenets, no holy books, no authority figures. By definition it is a lack of a religion.
You’re talking about how it SHOULD be. Not how it it’s becoming. And besides- I’m talking about internet “atheism,” not atheism. On the Internet, a truism is basically just hatred as smugness. And it’s evolving into a full-on religion.
You’re talking about how it SHOULD be. Not how it it’s becoming.
No, I am talking about both.
Atheism has no tenets, holy books, authority figures, etc. Nor is it developing those things. That applies in person and on the internet. It is in no way a religion. Not playing golf isn’t a sport.
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You were a christian scholar? Mind if I ask what sort of things you were interested in, when you were researching? I’m always curious about what the real intellectual types are pondering in their beliefs or church history.
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