There’s no such thing as the middle. It’s not a spectrum.
Sometimes things are actually just distinct beliefs.
You can’t be in between Christianity and Hindu for example. They aren’t attached to each other, they are distinct.
Why is it not a spectrum?
Why would it be?
Different ngos would compete for a govenment funding contract.
If sugar is on the left, and salt is on the right, what would be in the center?
What would it be a spectrum of? Either you think society needs to be ruled by elites (right wing) or you think society should run itself based on universal rights (left wing).
How would you have elites without government?
Are you asking why governments exist or what classes are?
I believe in universal rights.
Class systems predate governments so, no I don’t think governments as we know them are a prerequisite for class systems. Class systems are always perpetuated with violence so when a state has a monopoly on violence then class systems can only be upheld with state approval.
Because you can’t really have parts of both.
Either you have wealth redistribution, or you don’t. A lower amount is still wealth redistribution.
You can have a government, or you don’t. A smaller government is still a government.
So if someone wants some wealth redistribution, and some government. They are just arguing how much of a Libertarian Socialist they are, not how much of a anarcho-capitalist they are.
I personally am a Social Democrat. Capitalism is good most of the time, just make sure you’re holding the reigns tight so it goes in the right direction. Skip capitalism altogether for specific industries where it just doesn’t do very well and have the government run those ones directly.
I’m neither a libertarian socialist, nor an anarcho-capitalist. Not even close to either of them, because again, it isn’t a spectrum.
A georgist could use a land value tax to fund a minimum income program. Can social welfare programs be rolled out mostly (but not completely) outside of the state through ngos and non-profits?
It depends on what you mean by social welfare programs.
A basic income system requires very little administration, and what parts of it are required wouldn’t make sense to have it sitting outside the government.
I’d rather see a basic income than need non-profit food banks needing to exist. Grocery stores already exist, are reasonably competitive, and are enormously more efficient if people have the money available to use them.
For things like helping people with disabilities, where economies of scale are mostly irrelevant, ngos and non-profits can make more sense because they can specialize according to the need.
Why would it not make sense?
The administration of a basic income sitting outside of the government?
The government already has a list of every citizen registered via birth or immigration, and provides identification for people. They’re always going to need to do that. There’s really no reason to replicate that level of information outside of the government.
Most people would just go online and register where you’d like your money to be sent (Direct deposit, Mailed cheque)
However, you would still need a few call centers to handle issues, and If someone needs in-person support, the government already has common government service offices like DMVs and service centers that can provide in person service if required, saving significant money on needing dedicated service locations just for this one service.
Tl;dr Economies of Scale matter, and it doesn’t make any sense to replicate the parts that the government already does and has to continue doing.
Because it’s an axis
Did you mean “gradient” instead of “spectrum”?
I’ve read enough political posts on Lemmy to know that the correct term for the people in the middle is “Nazi sympathizers.”
Does that tell you where the strongest voices on Lemmy fall?
The other answer is “the left / right spectrum is false.” The actual spectrum is “right / wrong,” and the writer’s beliefs are always on the former side.
Amen. Any political post I make, even like citing basic facts of government and law… often results in multiple screams of nazi and maybe one reply that is legit.
Extremists don’t like facts. Just the other gay some guy was arguing me and he defaulted to ‘everything is propaganda, therefore anything you say is propaganda’. And well, he got me. Because apparently in his world me taking a dump is a form of political pro-capitalist propaganda.
Oh, definitely. The far left never did anything wrong. They only want unicorns and rainbows. All the states that turned authoritarian to preserve their revolution of the workers are actually just far right fascists. If you want to make a dollar or increase your home’s appeal and attraction, you’re a stooge of Big Somebody.
had someone yesterday comment multiple times at me how financing my car was endorsing fascism.
You don’t walk or ride a bike everywhere? Literal Nazi.
Then if you point out the implicist ableism in that… well you’re a woke nazi…
It’s difficult for some to understand the world is not black and white. I am an anarchist I always have to start saying: “I am an anarchist but I understand the world I am in and the things I have to do to survive they doesn’t mean I can’t spread the word” and the last word goes hard because I am a anarchocristian.
You can’t talk with “black and white world people”. All you can do is reply in hopes those who read don’t fall into the “black and white world hole”.
I would like to not own a car, to not have to spend half my life working for a company that pollutes the world and to no need money. I don’t live in that world but I can try to put a small stone in building that world even though I won’t see it because we are not ready for it.
That being said I hate this world where the State is God and its getting worse but as the saying goes: “the night is darker before dawn”
Of those two? Christian Democrats, I guess. But there are ideologies far to the right of anarchocapitalists (eg. neomonarchists) and far to the left of libertarian socialists (eg. communists), and anyway political ideologies don’t map well to a single- or even dual-axis graph. You need axes for economic model, rights vs. authority, and stability vs. innovation at a minimum.
what makes anarchocapitalists neomonarchists?
Libertarian capitalists and anarcho-communists?
What is in the middle of libertarian capitalism and anarchocommunism?
Libertarian socialists and anarcho-capitalists!
Ideologies such as social liberalism and democratic socialism are often regarded as in between extreme left and extreme right positions. There are many other positions of course such as centre-right and various “green” and religiously motivated positions. They could also often fit somewhere in between on a conventional right-left spectrum. This of course varies a lot between countries and political systems.
Liberals
Anarcho-primitivism?
The leave me alone, live and let live, enough with the politics because every politician lies (we can tell because their lips are moving) middle.
Rationality.
