Edit: “Updating to the legacy 580xx drivers doesn’t show me a desktop anymore”, just in case someone else can stumble upon this by searching something similar.

Thanks to @deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de and @Ooops@feddit.org I did try fixing it out of curiosity. I had forgotten to install linux-headers. Hopefully someone who actually has the same problem as me, and needs to fix it, can use the tips given in the comments. On my end, I just had to install linux-headers and one reboot later it worked.

Always check if you have all needed packages and don’t just “remember” that you had them installed.

  • deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de
    81·
    12 days ago

    You need a couple things:

    • The kernel driver (dkms)
    • Userspace component
    • Kernel headers (for dkms)

    First get your kernel headers, this is easy enough, but varies based on which kernel you have installed. The format of the package name is {kernel}-headers. If you have the linux kernel, get linux-headers. If you have linux-lts, get linux-lts-headers. If you’re not sure on this, the command pacman -Q | grep linux searches for installed packages containing linux in the name. If you have multiple kernels installed, get the headers for all of them.

    Then install (from AUR) at least nvidia-580xx-dkms (display out) and nvidia-580xx-utils (Acceleration, like 3D and video decoding). If you have Steam or play Windows games under Wine, be sure to get lib32-nvidia-580xx-utils too.

    Also of note is the order in which you install things. Having the kernel headers installed is important for the DKMS modules to install succesfully. If you already have nvidia-580xx-dkms but were missing your kernel headers, you should reinstall it after installing your kernel headers.

    • skarn@discuss.tchncs.de
      18·
      11 days ago

      I keep hitting my face on the fact that DKMS modules somehow don’t depend on the kernel headers and these have to be installed manually. This happened to me both in Arch and in Debian.

      Why does everyone seem to think that this makes sense?

    • KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.worldOP
      6·
      11 days ago

      Thank you very much. I could’ve sworn I had linux-headers installed. Frankly, I might’ve had them on a different device for some other reason. This is why you check your packages kids.

  • Val@anarchist.nexusEnglish
    16·
    11 days ago

    I just went over to NVK. I shouldn’t really waste my time playing the graphic intensive games anyway. The indies are better.

    I tried dkms but it took so long to install I gave up.

    • edinbruh@feddit.itEnglish
      2·
      11 days ago

      OP has a pascal GPU, the Nouveau kernel drivers for pascal (which you need for nvk) aren’t really suitable because they can’t change the clock at runtime, you are stuck at boot clock (which you can configure)

  • Ada@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    16·
    12 days ago

    You have btrfs and snapper, and just roll back to a working version in the grub menu, and install the legacy drivers before it all goes wrong

    • Lojcs@piefed.socialEnglish
      2·
      11 days ago

      How do you roll back in the grub menu? Is that a feature of grub?

      When I update the kernel it replaces both options in systemd-boot so rolling back snapper is a scary endeavor due to kernel - system mismatchs

        • Lojcs@piefed.socialEnglish
          2·
          11 days ago

          It seems it requires you don’t mount the EFI system partition over /boot so it’s included in snapshots, and systemd-boot doesn’t support booting from arbitrary partitions

  • chocrates@piefed.worldEnglish
    9·
    12 days ago

    Oh man, I remember fondly the days of booting to no gui. Typing out error codes to another computer to Google.

    I don’t think I miss it. Linux has been super stable for me for a decade maybe, and I’ve been trying to game on it, so I used to have to fight with “faster” drivers all the time

  • Lembot_0006@programming.dev
    82·
    12 days ago

    Modern schoolkids don’t read, so Arch should consider making 20-minute videos for every update. And a song like some of the *BSD.

    • KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.worldOP
      4·
      12 days ago

      I did try that as well. The legacy drivers did install from the tty, still the system doesn’t see them, for lack of a better word. It is not a big issue though. I had already planned on upgrading since my current setup is very old.

      Half of the new components have already arrived. The current PC will become a little home server running either Ubuntu or Debian most likely.

      I just thought the situation was funny.

  • Jack@slrpnk.net
    4·
    11 days ago

    What is the difference between arch drivers and say pop_os (my current daily)?

  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
    4·
    10 days ago

    Hey Look, it’s me! I am on nobara against my fucking will. I spent all saturday screaming.

    I’m going to refer the shit out of this thread in my news battle to get my goddamn debian OS back. DNF is scary and I can’t use signal.

    Here’s my notes (WARNING: THESE NOTES LEAD TO FAILURE) :

    
- get verson info for KDE and NVIDIA drivers
https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//non-free-firmware/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-graphics-drivers_550.163.01-2_changelog
https://packages.debian.org/trixie/nvidia-driver
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=trixie&section=all
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17999695/debian-package-dependencies-installing-specific-version-not-the-latest


added changes to /etc/apt/sources.list
https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?action=show&redirect=NVIDIA#Debian-13_notes

2 - 16
5 - 18
8-17


16 deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
17 deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ trixie-security contrib non-free main non-free-firmware
18 deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie-updates non-free-firmware non-free contrib main

2 deb http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie main (contrib) non-free-firmware
5 deb http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-updates main non-free-firmware (non-free contrib)
8 deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ trixie-security (contrib) main non-free-firmware


added git to /etc

ran
  git config --global --add safe.directory /etc
because I was geting thsi eror :
  fatal: detected dubious ownership in repository at '/etc'
  To add an exception for this directory, call:

installing drivers
  https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?action=show&redirect=NVIDIA#Debian-13_notes
    apt install nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-driver


    WARNING: No kernel headers were found, skipping module build.
             To get the headers for the running kernel (6.12.57+deb13-amd64)
             please install the linux-headers-6.12.57+deb13-amd64 package.
   ran
        apt install linux-headers-generic
   to resolve

   I DID ACTUALL RUN THE FOLLOWING
   _____
   Post-installation steps for Trixie

    Optionally verify the result of the DKMS module compilation:

    # dkms status

    If you plan to use wayland (which is a default for both the Gnome and KDE Plasma desktops since Debian 12 "Bookworm") make sure to follow the Wayland Modesetting notes below.

        If gnome starts with X11, you may enable wayland support by enabling NVreg_PreserveVideoMemoryAllocations=1 as mentioned below.

        If you plan to use suspend/hibernate functionality under KDE desktop environment, you may want to add another option to avoid graphics "glitches" after wakeup/restore:
        Warning: skip this step if you have Optimus hybrid graphics

        # echo "options nvidia NVreg_PreserveVideoMemoryAllocations=1" >> /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-options.conf

    In most cases a restart of the system is recommended to fully load the new driver. For wayland, check again if modeset is properly set, as described above.

    _____https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?action=show&redirect=NVIDIA#Wayland_configuration and this wayland shit too
    _____
    • KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.worldOP
      7·
      12 days ago

      I was working on a little Intel NUC on the side that had memory issues. And during that I just sudo pacman -Syu on my main machine without thinking.

      I did also read the announcement before upgrading which makes it even better IMO.

        • KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.worldOP
          2·
          10 days ago

          I use ext4, but the fix was just installing linux-headers. I simply was of the impression that I had already installed those. Most likely I had installed them on one of my laptops and simply just had that vivid memory still in my head. Once I installed them the problem solved itself after a reboot.

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
    3·
    11 days ago

    I’m safe, my ThinkPad doesn’t have an iGPU, and there’s no instructions on how to solder one onto an L440 motherboard.