Question in title. Just wondering as I saw France had proposed an initiative to withdraw because of the US’ shenanigans…

  • lime!@feddit.nu
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    1 month ago

    as far as i understand it, nato does not have any democratic principles in its rules because was assumed that everyone in it wants the same thing, so everything needs to be done with full agreement. that’s why sweden and finland were blocked from entering for multiple years, turkiye would not allow them in.

    so basically, as long as the us wants to be in nato, it will be in nato. better to scrap it and start again. i propose the name na2.

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      1 month ago

      i propose the name na2.

      Clever, but I don’t see why it should be limited to North Atlantic countries.
      If for instance Australia and South Korea want to join, that should be an option.

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      1 month ago

      Keep the name and call it NATO: Nations Against Trump Organization

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      1 month ago

      nato does not have any democratic principles in its rules because was assumed that everyone in it wants the same thing, so everything needs to be done with full agreement.


      Consensus decision-making is a group decision-making process in which participants work together to develop proposals for actions that achieve a broad acceptance. Consensus is reached when everyone in the group assents to a decision (or almost everyone; see stand aside) even if some do not fully agree to or support all aspects of it. It differs from simple unanimity, which requires all participants to support a decision. Consensus decision-making in a democracy is consensus democracy.[1]

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making

      Consensus is far more democratic than majority rule, which is the norm in most Western democracies.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

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      1 month ago

      How about nay2? Thst way, when it comes to the unavoidable acoustical misunderstandings, it’s also the answer to what’s talked about.