I only want to use it for facebook marketplace, but jeez i didnt know they were taking it this far with this crap…
Why use Facebook at all.
I deleted my facebook account in 2022 and have essentially not been contacted by friends since, so there’s that
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Have you tried to contact them outside of FB?
Perhaps you’re just not friends.
I moved to a new town recently. People don’t give out their phone numbers to connect. They give out their FB and Instagram accounts. Not having either is perceived as weird.
Hope this helps.
You’re in a fucked up town., and that attachment to the platform is more fucked up.
Unfortunately that’s like most people outside.
Facebook is something most people have and use to connect because most people don’t care about the privacy invasions or manipulative algorithms. It’s a fucked up world, not a fucked up town.
That doesn’t help. Also when’s the last time you moved your life?
I already said I recently moved. I’ve moved 3 times in the past 10 years and it’s all the same. Maybe people used Snapchat or Instagram more often than Facebook when I was younger but it’s all the same privacy invasive shit.
The majority tolerate it, that’s why Meta is so successful as a company.
Hope this helps.
Same happen to me and I realized that where not my friends! The question someone asked me then, was how many of them would remember your birthday?
Phone numbers + messaging apps is good way to stay connected.To me, I dont care if my friends remember my birthday. I care if they are genuine friends and I have good conversations and laughs around them.
Someone remembering your birthday is just them putting a reminder in the calendar. Doesnt mean much, not to me at least.
So you have an actual human connection to these people? Friends could have a laugh over forgetting someones birthday, because its built on a real connection that doesnt go away over missing the small things.
Because it’s where people are. I’ve gone 20 years without using FaceBook but I’ve definitely missed out on a lot. Whether you’re trackng down an old friend, selling something locally, trying to get information on a local business etc. there’s no better alternative. That’s why so many alternatives to big websites fail. They may be better in theory but if nobody migrates then there’s no point
Marketplace can be good for local deals and I can’t fault anyone for taking advantage of that
Yeah I use it extensively for this.
If it asked me to verify and I couldn’t use someone else’s face it would be a tough decision.
how are you guys curving their invasive dark patterns? They are dead set on forcing you into their bullshit to use marketplace.
No idea. Never been asked for any verification.
You will if they don’t face any competition. I haven’t either yet, but everyone will, because they are maximizing revenue.
Surprisingly, Craigslist is rather active in my area. It’s still not as active as marketplace, but it makes it possible to get by without having an FB account.
It’s just not really a thing here in Australia. I just checked and in my state (about 2 million people) there’s a dozen ads or so across all categories.
A distant second to facebook marketplace is gumtree. I just had a look to see how popular that is and their site just seems to be down. Shits fucked really.
I use Gumtree instead of marketplace pretty regularly and I’ve not had an issue. In fact, I’ve found the quality of the interactions to be much higher, far fewer time wasters.
Yeah.
I think gumtree is better for different types of items.
My sister is a dog breeder and lists exclusively on gumtree to avoid the idiots on facebook.
The vast majority of stuff bought and sold from our household is low value toddler gear. fb marketplace is awash with that stuff and when you list something for the right price it’s gone by the end of the day. It’s true that there’s some time wasters but you get better at kinda managing the great unwashed.
My partner doesn’t care about the privacy issues and will never delete her fb account so maybe for the time being I can just use her account.
In 12 months or so we will be well past the worst of the “toddler gear” and I’ll be happy to leave fb behind for good.
Remember that folks are using ‘Garry’s Mod’ to circumvent UK’s facial recognition requirement.
Through no fault of my own, the people I talk to (family) are tied to the FB ecosystem…and they are very resilient as to leaving it.
2026 will have to be the year of “please, for the love of all that is holy, can we switch to Signal”
I only want to use it for facebook marketplace
Marketplace has killed most other local trading stuff sites. Craigslist is still limping along, but has far less available at higher prices than FBMP. I’m happy to hear of viable alternatives, especially for used vehicles, tools and equipment. I’ve saved a lot of money on my business and hobbies that way, but would leave in a heartbeat if there’s a real competitor.
Aside from the already-mentioned marketplace, social networks like FB are fit well for localized giveaways. Where I am, the local analog of FB has groups where bakeries and cafes give out food remaining at the end of the day.
One population that this particularly pertains to are homeless people. Some folks get surprised when a homeless person has a smartphone, but it’s a means for finding help and resources.
local analog of FB
That sounds lovely!
I mean a platform that’s used in my country. It’s still centralized, and the practices are not much better, probably only because they haven’t yet gotten around to all the same shady shit.
Eh at least they presumably pay attention, moderate it, and tailor it to your country.
One of my issues with FB is that it mind as well be run from Alpha Centauri. There’s nothing “human” or local about, its a gaping maw mixed with tons of other predatory service.
My elderly father knows how to use it and posts nature photos all the time.
Here’s a word of advice: do not use that sack of shit company for anything. Always use decentralized alternatives wherever possible
I signed up for friendica, after 2 decades of having never used facebook.
It’s blank, and I don’t know what I’m supposed to do.
I can’t comment on what the facebook experience is, but I imagine they don’t just dump you onto a blank white page, with zero explaination.
Note that I am NOT defending or endorsing facebook. I’m just saying the decentralized services have work to do before they can fully be reccomended.
I also recently signed up for pixelfed. It took 3 days to login the first time. And I’m still not sure what the point of collections is. But I did upload 4 pictures.
When the entire country (not USA or EU) uses Instagram and WhatsApp for communication, your hand is forced to use it too.
It’s called network effect and it’s the reason why most people are forced to use WhatsApp or Facebook
What is the decentralized alternative where all the people in my city are?
Have been for a while. Decided to try to make a fake Facebook account mid-laat year to use marketplace since it’s the dominant platform in my area. As soon as I saw this I just closed the browser tab.
I had an account but deleted it years ago, during covid my kids school put a lot of information on their Facebook account so I tried making a new account. Facebook told me there wasn’t enough proof I was real, so I made a fake account with a super common name, they were fine with that. So now I have a Facebook account that I occasionally use to repost sports articles,I have zero interest in sports but my guy seems to like them.
Other me wants his own social media accounts as well.
Did you sign up for the failed you and generic other you accounts from the same electronic device, the same IP? They should be able to tell it’s the same person that is pretty weird.
Honestly I don’t remember, but I don’t really use anything else to fill out forms so I probably used my pc I did make him a Google account before setting up his Facebook, he does have a picture of himself but it was made by ai I just used his info from Facebook as the prompt.
This information goes right to the US government.
Anyone who doesn’t think Facebook is an arm of the US government is naive at best.
To be fair, it probably doesn’t just go to the US government.
Wait until you hear what they do with your drivers license/ passport / or id photo.
But seriously fuck Facebook I wouldn’t voluntarily give them anything.
Would you happen to have a source on this?
honest question, why would you think there will be a source for secret spying activities?
Because responsibly making a claim requires a source
no source will quench your thirst for officialism
The Edward Snowden leaks and PRISM
That is over a decade ago, hence an unreliable source on the state today.
What, do you think they just stopped? They would have no reason to break their partnership so it’s reasonable to assume it’s still ongoing.
Well, just uploaded a photo of someone else now it says this…
That means Facebook already knows what you look like. Otherwise they couldn’t have known you submitted the wrong photo.
Or it knows who the other person is
both. and all your friends and ‘friends’, too.
Facebook has new users?
the facial pictures
wdym? facebook automatically showed us it used facial recognition at least as far back as 2007 by asking us to click boxes on faces and subsequently asking us to label them… We really did all of the heavy lifting for them. -I got out while i could in ~2018
It’s been like that for quite a while. I remember deleting all big-tech accounts in 2019, and shortly after, Facebook started requiring login for full public page access. Therefore I created a burner account using a ‘this person does not exist’ picture, which provided me short-lived access after manual review. For account recovery, I was required to supply additional selfies (or even video-selfies?), but at that point I gave up.
THIS!
I tried this to get an account. This was back in 2021. My account was deleted immediately. Probably a mixture of name and face. Maybe. But F that.
Yeah, I think they employ a pretty sophisticated bot detection algorithm. I vaguely remember there being this ‘make 5 friends’ objective, or something along those lines, which I had no intention of fulfilling. If a new account, having triggered the manual reviewing process, doesn’t adhere to common usage patterns, simply have them supply additional information. Any collateral damage simply means additional data, to be appended to Facebook’s self-profiling platform… I mean, what else would one expect when Facebook’s first outside investor was Palentir’s Peter Thiel?
One wit responded to such requests for ID by sending in a picture of an id with pharoh ramsey’s mummy’s picture, birthdate thousands bc.
I never agreed to give them my personal information. My emails forced me to, locking me out of accounts I needed to access.
I now found alternative email that doesn’t need a phone number or linked other email. I am quitting every site that tried to force me to link my phone number, real name, likeness, id, address, anything like that, without a valid reason.
Amazon just demanded I verify my account again, same ip, same account I’ve used for years. Verifying under the email I abandoned for forcing my phone verification periodically, that would lock me out of my accounts if I lost my phone or it’s service. Trying to make good on my threats to quit them too.
My emails forced me to, locking me out of accounts I needed to access.
Microsoft had me fill this form, to “prove” I was the rightful owner of the account, after some suspicious login-attempts from an African country. The form included fields like: name (I don’t think I supplied at creation, or a false one), other email addresses, previous passwords (which potentially yield completely unrelated passwords), etc.; only for the application to be rejected and locking me out of my primary email for a full month. After that outright violation, I immediately switched to Disroot, and haven’t had any of said problems ever since. I backup all its contents locally using Thunderbird, and delete the origins from the server afterwards.
Many platforms have this messed up dark pattern, of revoking one’s access to a real-world dependencies, unless giving in to the service’s demands. Enforcement of 2FA is another one of those “excuses” for this type of misbehavior, and so is bot-detection.
I am sure the plan is to eventually roll this out to everyone.
Delete Facebook and problem solved. Here, where I live, we have websites for marketplace and website for concerts.
Facebook has new users?? In 2026??
Right? I ditched them almost a decade ago.
Never used it even when it came out and I was in college.
It’s been several years already.
Upload verification video of drinking verification can
Doritos dew it right!
Don’t use this shit
I don’t even use facial unlock on my phone. I enter the pin every time.
Unfortunately, to access the Social Security site, I was required to send a picture of my face and driver’s license. So, I suppose Trump will sell that to whoever want’s to buy it now.
if you’re using an iphone, the avoidance is just your own inconvenience. face id on iphone all happens locally, on a dedicated security chip in your phone. id be much more concerned with having any pictures of myself on google photos
at least that’s what they say it does
