so are you wilfully ignoring the obvious fact that this depends on the actual weight of the vehicle, or are you just posting despite not knowing what you’re talking about?
There’s a very very easy solution to this: Make the cars smaller and lighter. There’s no reason to make cars with 400km of range, it’s utterly insane.
If we just change the default design of electric cars from “4 seats plus a huge trunk” to “2 dedicated seats plus 2 seats that can fold down”, then the weight issue is more than negated.
The weight issue is because electric cars have extremely heavy batteries (the motors aren’t light too) and need to be strong enough to prevent those batteries from physical deformation in the event of an accident to prevent a battery fire
For someone so combative you seem to have no idea what you’re talking about
Gross weight ~10% of a typical electric car, so probably ~10% tyre dust too.
For bikeways. If the plastic surface were designed to yield in a crash, a pedestrian could be safer hit by this than by a bare biker on a bare metal bike.
Takes less space than a biker because a 4-wheeler can be steered more accurately than a naturally unstable bike needing wobble margins.
They are marginally better than internal combustion engines and that’s their only merit. If you’re gonna have a car, it should be electric.
But yeah, electric cars are not only creating micro plastic pollution from tire shedding, they are also heavier and thus require more energy to move, as well as create more potholes.
Plus, they still require parking lots that worsens flooding and creates heat islands.
Worldwide, cars are also killing billions of animals every year, as well as around 2 million humans. Every 30 seconds someone dies injured by a car.
they are also heavier and thus require more energy to move
No, electric motors are a lot more efficient, 90%+. Internal combustion are at 30% something. So EV, while about 10% heavier, are much more energy efficient. They just carry less energy.
Any more info on that? I found this but it’s coming from an EV enthusiast site and I’d like other sources.
If true I’ll have to retire this argument and focus only on the other half a dozen issues with cars, like using energy to move a multi ton vehicle and park it everywhere a few billion humans go.
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Electric cars also cause significantly more tire degradation which is one of the most significant sources of airborne microplastics
so are you wilfully ignoring the obvious fact that this depends on the actual weight of the vehicle, or are you just posting despite not knowing what you’re talking about?
There’s a very very easy solution to this: Make the cars smaller and lighter. There’s no reason to make cars with 400km of range, it’s utterly insane.
If we just change the default design of electric cars from “4 seats plus a huge trunk” to “2 dedicated seats plus 2 seats that can fold down”, then the weight issue is more than negated.
The weight issue is because electric cars have extremely heavy batteries (the motors aren’t light too) and need to be strong enough to prevent those batteries from physical deformation in the event of an accident to prevent a battery fire
For someone so combative you seem to have no idea what you’re talking about
Full-size cars, yes, but I wish we the people now stopped the fossil-lobbied lawfare against microcars.
Renault Twizy, top speed 80km/h
Kyburz Plus, top speed 30km/h
Less healthy than a bicyclist though, but better than a car.
They are marginally better than internal combustion engines and that’s their only merit. If you’re gonna have a car, it should be electric.
But yeah, electric cars are not only creating micro plastic pollution from tire shedding, they are also heavier and thus require more energy to move, as well as create more potholes.
Plus, they still require parking lots that worsens flooding and creates heat islands.
Worldwide, cars are also killing billions of animals every year, as well as around 2 million humans. Every 30 seconds someone dies injured by a car.
Making them electric will barely change anything.
No, electric motors are a lot more efficient, 90%+. Internal combustion are at 30% something. So EV, while about 10% heavier, are much more energy efficient. They just carry less energy.
Any more info on that? I found this but it’s coming from an EV enthusiast site and I’d like other sources.
If true I’ll have to retire this argument and focus only on the other half a dozen issues with cars, like using energy to move a multi ton vehicle and park it everywhere a few billion humans go.
Doing the math, an electric car uses 15 to 20 kWh/100 km.
Gasoline car uses about 7 liter/100 km. That’s about 68 kWh.
That seems pretty straightforward with real-world numbers.
Renault Clio I -> 900 kg
Renault Clio VI -> 1200 kg
Both gasoline.
But now the same weight increase is a problem, right?
Yes. Fuck cars. Electric or not.
Yes and tire dust already makes up 78% of the microplastics in the ocean.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/tire-dust-makes-up-the-majority-of-ocean-microplastics-study-finds