Would Tails go in cool and good or schizo?
Guys, MacOS isn’t everybody’s taste, especially now. But it does do what it’s trying to do. Windows isn’t succeeding at anything it’s trying to do.
Vibecode will do that to you.
I haven’t coded in years and wanted to pick up python finally. I’m using ChatGPT to demonstrate all the wrong answers to problems and I have to admit it’s a great learning tool for an unexpected reason.
It is productively wrong. All the time. But by screwing with it I can learn why things do or do not work. It does not give me an answer direct but instead guides me through all the possible ways to screw things up and I can learn from that.
I haven’t coded since C++ and Java in high school outside some arduino shit I did for a bit in between and chatGPT has been great and bringing those skills back from cold storage in my brain.
But as far as put in question, get response it’s obviously terrible.
This kind of demonstrates the bigger problem though. Business majors are making decisions and not engineers. And business majors are fucking stupid outside their element.
MBAs do like to think they know everything just because they played the BSG in their senior year.
MacOS is worlds better than Windows, it’s not even close.
Kali Linux as Chad OS suggests this list is as much meme as truth so I wouldn’t worry about the rankings.
Hell, Mac OS is even a certified UNIX operating system, something that even Linux (or GNU+Linux) can’t say.
It’s still a non-FOSS OS which is the real reason it sucks, but it’s a lot better than a lot of people seem to think. Whereas Windows just plain sucks on a usability level too, not just the licensing.
I read a deep dive into the macos “certified UNIX” thing and it’s a scam. I dont remember the details but the certification is obtained only through a set of testing exceptions. The macos used by people is not the macos that is Unix certified.
As a former macos user (2013-2024ish), macos has become IMO a very user hostile experience. It’s not quite as bad as windows, but macos is not the “user friendly, it (mostly) just works and gets out of your way” os it used to be.
I’m full time Linux now and when I have to use macos or windows I cannot believe how user hostile they both are.
Linux is far from perfect, but at least I control my system/os.
The macos used by people is not the macos that is Unix certified.
Could be that they certified the Darwin kernel, but not the commercial offering?
I found the article I read about this, which was published a year ago on OSnews. Here’s the link
Oh hey. You’re me! I’ve historically been a very loyal Mac user who played with Linux here and there, but I’ve been full time Linux for the past few two years.
Sibling from another mother! Tried it a few times over the years here and there just like you, until going full time.
Also got a full homelab going and have been learning python.
As a former macos user (2013-2024ish), macos has become IMO a very user hostile experience.
I haven’t really used Mac OS since Mountain Lion, so that makes me sad to hear, but I’m not really surprised.
However good it is and however many certificates it has i personally agree with the dogshit classification. It won’t install on any of about 8 computers in my house, including one I bought from apple. Literally unusable to me for the last 10ish years. Windows would probably install on one or two of them I think, so I’ll give it a few hypothetical points for usability for that.
Both got the deal with the devil clauses in their end user agreements, right? That’s bad enough it does not even matter who’s better or worse after that. That’s already bad enough to not be fit to use.
Well it was. It’s got a major update recently which ruined everything. Still better than Windows tho xD
how is windows above macos lol
Because at least you can do gaming on Windows lol
MacOS has no reason to exist.
If you are ok running corporate software just use windows with its huge array of software and compatibility with pretty much everything.
If you want to be cool and different and have problems with software and hardware compatibility run Linux.
MacOS is the Porsche Panamera of operating systems. People just have it because it matches their 911/iThing
MacOS does have a reason to exist. It helps people get rid of those pesky thousands of dollars over-bloating their bank account every 5 years when they are told their Mac is obsolete.
Apple’s chips on the other hand are very nice.
Arch should be in its own tier: BTW
Yeah: the self-own tier
Sorry, I declare NixOS being in its own tier, actually.
My proposed image for the tier:
Is that GNU at the bottom? If so, bro, this dude don’t get it.
Have you tried to actually use GNU/Hurd?
Yeah, that’s why it belongs next to Arch
Arch is high skill floor high skill ceiling. Once you get good you can do really cool things with it. GNU/Herd is high skill floor low skill ceiling. If you’re really good and practice really hard, eventually you’ll be able to do things that could have been easier achieved with literally anything else.
Some people code recreationally in Malbolge and Befunge
I have.
It was fine.
This was way back around 2014 iirc.
yes in a vm, specificly Debian GNU/hurd, works suprisingly, main issues is lack of hardware support, for usage as a vm guest, I would say it is already better than half of the BSDs
Similar experience.
Except, props to the BSDs (especially OpenBSD), for being so much more coherent systems, as perhaps seen best (or at least easiest) in its man pages.
But then that is not the logo of Hurd, and Hurd is not the point of GNU
It’s kinda part of the original point… to make a complete free software operating system…
Still, was nice that the Linux kernel came along to make things easier than the more advanced approach Hurd was taking.
Linux Libre + GNU, and got the point of GNU none the less. :)
Lol Gentoo over here in two categories
Get Kali out of the Chad tier, please.
If they are a professional using it for thier job… yes, IMO that is Chad tier.
The distributions within the openSUSE project are, in my opinion, the most advanced and complete Linux distributions. They offer tools such as btrfs+snapper, openQA, Secure-boot, Firewall, Yast (Myrlyn+Agama), etc. as soon as the system is installed. No other Linux distribution offers all of this configured immediately after installing the system. In my opinion, the openSUSE project is at the highest level of Linux, offering solutions for most users, fixed distributions such as Leap, rolling distributions such as Tumbleweed, immutable distributions such as Kalpa, etc.
Yeah.
I was not wrong for having suse be my os when I made the leap as a windows refugee in late 2003. It’d still be a great choice for windows refugees these days. Perhaps even the best choice.
You highlight why, very well.
OpenSUSE (and even the corporate version) deserve more praise. They seemed to get out-marketed by Ubuntu. But did not get beat for a better OS.
Preach!
Peak Script-Kiddie Shit.
/r/masterhacker laugh at you too much, op?
Doesn’t have Hannah Montana Linux on the list so we know this guys opinion is trash smh
Maybe it is so high above every other category it didn’t fit into the chart
That has to be it.
The super secret super chad level above.
Hi. Bazzite user here and I insist on proper representation. Please add it to the dogshit tier. Thanks.
Is that X OSX? They renamed it back to MacOS.
On top of that, putting it below Windows? This is clearly someone who’s never used one or thinks gaming is the only thing you do on a computer. I’m all for Linux and use it in several places, but it has nothing on MacOS polish. Sure, it’s not perfect, but it’s a far cry from ChromeOS or Windows 11.
I’m all for Linux and use it in several places, but it has nothing on MacOS polish.
Literally why I prefer a Macbook for work and a Linux desktop for gaming. The former just works with a little bit of setup (brew), the latter allows for infinite tinkering and customizability.
imagine having to install a whole subsystem to even gain proper environment access and capabilities…
I don’t care for WSL either.
I don’t understand the hate for MacOS or Ubuntu frankly. Windows was fine until they stopped making “features” opt in. Fedora has been toying with adding AI, and my experiences with Arch have been subpar for my needs. I’m kinda at the point in my life where I don’t care as long as the OS works. They’re all so similar at the end of the day, they help me do the websites, work tools and vidya gaems.
After I realized Ubuntu and Mint (the two distros I used the most) are both based on Debian, I switched to Debian with KDE Plasma. I don’t know why I never tried it before and I’m never going back.
The reason you’ve never tried it before is probably that they only recently made an effort to make it palatable for the average nerd. It always had a bit of a reputation of being not easy to work with.
It’s been fine for the average nerd for a couple decades. The installer has been mostly unchanged since 2005 or so, and I don’t see much difference in an installed system either. I think you can live boot it ahead of installation now, maybe that’s a big deal to some people?
And an old reputation for hiding their ISO downloads buried deep in the website.
I’m glad they did, I like it since I was already used to the Debian way of doing things.
Yup that was me a few years ago. Its no longer the mid 2000s and stock debian can do pretty much anything right out the gate.
My typical Linux installation workflow:
- Attempt to install Debian.
- It doesn’t work because the kernel is too old to support my new hardware (even though it’s not always that new).
- Rather than trying to fix it, just install Kubuntu instead.
Failing to have graphics drivers for my gaming PC with a GPU I bought the day it launched is one thing, but Debian also failed to have WiFi drivers for the cheap N100 NUCs I bought for my kids the other day – with wifi hardware that’d been out for multiple years at this point – and that’s just ridiculous.
Kubuntu annoys me with Snaps, but it also Just Works in a way Debian unfortunately doesn’t.
