• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
          71·
          12 days ago

          Do you also uphold this same standard for those, who say murder, child sexual abuse, animal abuse, etc. are bad? At least two of those three mentioned has way more performative activism attached to them, than to anti-AI, with most performative anti-AI activism coming from AI-grifters (!) themselves generating anti-AI propaganda, and/or those who only concerned about AI use in their own field.

          Just because someone thinks even self-defense should be illegal due to “murder is bad even if the murdered is bad, uwu” doesn’t make murder not bad.

          Just because someone thinks lolicon and not having pubic hair is literally pedophilia (or at least “normalizes” it) doesn’t make child sexual abuse not bad.

          Just because someone thinks meat is murder or posts “let’s call John Wick!” on even the smallest forms of animal abuse (or even fake ones) doesn’t make animal abuse not bad.

          And just because of anti-AI sentiments being popular even among some AI users for some parts doesn’t negate the negative impacts of generative AI on the society. Boomers will still be fooled by them (even I can be if I don’t use a magnifier glass every time to check for artifacts - at least convincing photoshops like that old image of Osama Bin Laden, George Bush, and Barack Obama being photoshopped onto the bodies of rabbis took effort from nazis to create, not just googling how to jailbreak advanced models), scammers are going to use it to augment or automate their scams, grifters are going to use it to spam “art” to get ad revenue for their first Porsche, the gas turbines are pollluting the environment, the people behind it are snake oil salesmen, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera!

          • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            12 days ago

            They never have concrete rebuttals to thought-out replies. If it was a matter of thinking, they wouldn’t be going to bat for generative AI. Good work though.

            • venusaur@lemmy.world
              13·
              12 days ago

              This is the problem. You completely misinterpreted my comment to fuel your own anti-AI agenda. I made no mention of whether AI was good or bad. It was a comment about people who are posting anti-AI content. Then you took that and said OH! Anybody against us is pro-AI! This is the problem. This attitude will only push people away, not bring people in.

              This attitude is why we have Trump. It only creates division.

              • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
                5·
                12 days ago

                Nah cynical dipshits on the internet who try to Jordan Peterson every conversation about art theft and AI regulation who are creating division. Have a good one, enjoy your AI titties and shit.

          • venusaur@lemmy.world
            23·
            12 days ago

            Had a lot to unpack there huh?

            1. I never said anything about AI being good or bad. Your comment is misdirected.

            2. The criticism is of everybody joining the anti-AI circlejerk like they’re actually doing something to help. It’s like Lemmy is just a big anti-AI support group. Instead you can promote groups that are driving legislation to control AI, groups that are helping people affected by AI, develop and share data to support your sentiments towards AI.

            I get it. Wanting to belong to a community is one of the most human traits there is and the anti-AI circlejerk is at its essence a protest against digital conformity and for conserving what it means to be human.

            It’s also sad to see how desperate people are to belong to something that they’ll just regurgitate the same thoughtless messages over and over with no real progress holding on to every last bit of connection until it inevitably fades away and everybody is left feeling like they fought the good fight when really they just jerked each other off until they bled into the abyss and life kept moving on without them.

            Just my 2¢. 🤪

            • Goodman@discuss.tchncs.de
              5·
              12 days ago

              I like the term community pilled instead of anti AI. Simply placing meaningful human interaction over soulless machine interaction.

              • venusaur@lemmy.world
                13·
                12 days ago

                That’s great except the anti-AI community is actually not very inviting. But it is human to be flawed.

                • Goodman@discuss.tchncs.de
                  3·
                  12 days ago

                  I would hereby like to issue a formal invitation to the pro-human community!

                  With the emphasis lying on breaking free from the fake and inauthentic interactions of digital life. You can still have a digital life and even use a some AI, but the human spirit should not be smothered in the way that it is now.

                  (partial sarcasm) Join today rediscover your humanity!

                  Edit: Preaching to the choir here I imagine

  • errer@lemmy.worldEnglish
    101·
    13 days ago

    If only it were “super easy” when it’s being shoved down our throat by pretty much every company on the planet…

    • Leon@pawb.socialEnglish
      24·
      13 days ago

      I think a lot of people in the west are kind of sleeping on the capabilities of microwaves. They’re fantastic.

      That’s not an endorsement of AI.

      • morto@piefed.socialEnglish
        5·
        13 days ago

        After having 2 microwaves barely lasting more than a year in sequence, I decided no never have one again and rely on a small electric oven. It’s not the same, but it’s also great to use and it’s lasting 5 years so far. I don’t even miss a microwave anymore

        • Leon@pawb.socialEnglish
          13·
          13 days ago

          Wow. That’s some shit luck, and I definitely get why you’d choose to not have one.

        • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
          9·
          13 days ago

          Don’t think we’ve had one last less than a decade.

          But if you don’t need one, you don’t need one. No need to clutter your home with another appliance just because it can occasionally heat up leftovers in a minute or something. I find it convenient but I’ve also lived without it and it was fine.

    • Krauerking@lemy.lol
      5·
      12 days ago

      The science was sound and built on a reliable use of electricity for output that people tried to get clever with but eventually settled into a more casual relationship with instead of expecting anything amazing from?

      I mean honestly yeah probably will end up similar to microwaves where local running versions that people operating it are ok with lower quality will use, use it and its considered gross for professional setups.

      Good comparison.

  • 𝕲𝖑𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍🔻𝕯𝖃 (he/him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
    81·
    12 days ago

    Hate ai companies, not the technology. openai, midjourney, et all, should all be sued into the ground for the massive scale theft of intellectual property and other harm they’ve done to artists and other creatives.

    however

    there are actual good use cases for this technology. Personally, I’m fond of using it to turn my drunken ramblings into coherent notes for later works. This would be totally fine to do, if the ai’s that were any good were made ethically and responsibly.