• Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zoneBanned
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    bro. Fucking – Think about it. Klarna pay in 3 installments divide the cost by 3 and take payments monthly. Month A, you pay one third. Month B you pay one third of months A and B. By month C onwards you’re consistently paying three thirds or 100% of the rent. You’d only defer yourself the value of one month’s rent over the span of two months. Pointless.

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    Dystopian fucking timeline. Around every corner there seemingly waits billionaires waiting to fuck ppl over

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    Klarna 'bout to find out their business model doesn’t work as well in the US compared to the Nordic countries and EU, as

    1. People are already up to their neck in debt, putting Klarna to the back of the queue in case there’s a default
    2. Personal bankruptcy is a thing

    Especially the Northern Europe personal bankruptcy is really not a thing, fuck up your finances and you’re never going to see a penny you make (above what you strictly need to live) until everything has been paid back. Debt that is actively being collected also never expires.

    There’s a good reason Klarna’s been able to thrive in this environment – getting debt from banks is quite difficult and you have added security from the draconian collections process.

    In the US a company ignores credit scores at their own peril. The bankruptcy process is one of the few things that works better in the US than in e.g. my home country Finland.

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      People are already up to their neck in debt, putting Klarna to the back of the queue in case there’s a default

      People in debt (before there is professional help) end up paying the important things first (such as rent) and then choose to pay off the debt that is most within their reach. Klarna is much more likely to be a low amount compared to their creditors.

      It might be true their loans are more likely to be payed back while also they might have less to loose in case of a personal bankruptcy.

      But that aside, i have no clue on whether Klarna is making a smart move. But i assume they are because companies that are both evil and stupid don’t tend to come far.

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        I’ll try to find some and link, but I’m not sure if there are good ones.

        Edit: couldn’t find one with quick googling. Guess I’ll have to write one when I have time.

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      No, it’s not. Financing is a great tool, and used wisely and with knowledge of interest rates and total cost, can elevate you quite a bit in life.

      This however is predatory lending, and it should not be used ever.

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      This is a financially naive and reductionist take, approaching financial illiteracy. Applied correctly, financing allows you to preserve liquidity while still leaving funds in accounts with higher returns. Financing also provides a hedge against inflation, e.g. real estate.

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      I literally took out a mortgage to buy my house. That’s financing.

      If I lose my job and I’m not able to find another one then the bank will repossess my house, but that doesn’t make my purchase of my house a financially irresponsible decision. The repayments on my mortgage are considerably less than the rent that I used to pay, so I am much better off now than I was previously. Anyway I would have lost my rental had I stopped paying as well, so nothing’s really changed.

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      I knew a guy in college that kept getting new credit cards to pay off other credit cards he had maxed out. I wonder what his credit looks like now.

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        that’s me, been trapped in that cycle since I had to pay several months’ rent with credit card during covid

        aside from some dings due to high credit usage, my score is good. mainly because i have a shit load of cards i opened years ago, so my average account age is high.

        I’m not a particularly responsible spender and have a shit ton of debt, but since I make the CC companies a bunch of money by paying balance transfer fees all the time, I’m profitable. So my score is high.

        What a stupid world

  • JohnnyFlapHoleSeed@lemmy.worldBanned
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    My dad paid 140k to buy a lot and build a house about 25-30 years ago. It’s back up for sale…$475k. in that time, minimum wage went from $5.15 an hour to $7.25 in that save time frame.

    People are still working 40+ hour weeks, and healthcare is somehow costs MORE, along with everything else.

    I don’t fucking think immigrants had anything to do with any of that.

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      The role immigrants play is involuntary, so blaming them is asinine. But they do fit in the equation. An average American has little to no financial security (by design), leaving many in a constant state of desperation. If anything, immigrants are even more desperate to make a living away from whatever situation they were trying to get away from, thus willing to accept even lower pay. But on top of that, many are manipulated into a situation where they are trapped in an “illegal” status and forced to accept sub-minimum wages or get deported.

      Make no mistake, the vast majority of immigrants arrive here legally, but are then victimized by our capitalist class. And in the end, they get blamed for the situation. Fuck that.

      The class divide all over the world needs to be destroyed. But that will require solidarity amongst the worldwide working class who have been brainwashed into a completely illogical fear of their peers, just because of an imaginary line drawn by sociopathic fuckwit pedophiles, who do not, and never have, deserved anything even resembling respect.