• Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Instant surprise switch to nonexistence after my kids are grown up and have their own lifes would be totally fine.

    Preferrably in synchronization with the life partner.

    It’s not the being dead that’s the problem, it’s all the nasty stuff connected to the transition process.

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    Reminds me of one of my favourite Alan Watts quotes:

    “When you die, you’re not going to have to put up with everlasting non-existance, because that’s not an experience. A lot of people are afraid that when they die, they’re going to be locked up in a dark room forever, - Try and imagine what it would be like to go to sleep and never wake up. And if you think long enough about that…it will pose the next question. What was it like to wake up after never having gone to sleep? That was when you were born…you see…you…you can’t have an experience of nothing so after you’re dead the only thing that can happen is the same experience or the same sort of experience as when you were born.”

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    Before your first taste of ice cream you had none. Now that ice cream is permabanned and you’ll never have it again why you so upset?

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      But you won’t be aware of the ice cream stopping. Only that it’s going to stop. But you won’t experience that stoppage. You’ll never lack for ice cream. You’ll only ever experience ice cream.

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    I don’t remember what being 6 months old was like either, but I’m told I screamed and shit myself the entire time, so maybe the experience actually wasn’t great.

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    You’ve already experienced

    Have I though? I don’t think my ability to “experience” existed prior to my birth.

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      You now understand EXACTLY what death will be. Your ability to “experience” will no longer exist.

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          No, it is undeniable. Remember all those billions upon billions of years before you were born where you didn’t exist? No? That is exactly what death will be like.

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      “Experienced” is a poor term to use when describing nonexistence. You weren’t there, there was no mind, there was no you, thusly there is no memory and even if there were, it would be of nothing.

      The notion is more that because you did not exist, you had no mind, no consciousness and thusly there was simply nothing. Not you, not an experience for you to absorb.

      it’s a weird concept because there is no way to really describe it that relates to anything we know. We know ONLY of existing. We can’t know of not existing because not existing precludes the ability to be cognizant of it.

      It’s one of those things you just have to accept. When we die, we simply cease to exist (unless you believe in an afterlife). The closest thing that I’ve experienced to being aware of non-existence is being put under general anthesia. You are lying there with doctors and nurses peering down at you over their masks, wearing their funny little hats, they tell you to count backward, by the time you get to two and a half, you’re gone. When you do eventually come back around, you just have a big empty spot that you time traveled through. No dreams, no thoughts, no awareness, just nothing.

      The only difference with death is the whole not coming back around bit. Of course, since you will not exist, you will not be concerned with that part because you will not be.

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          You haven’t fallen asleep?

          When you sleep there is a time where you are not conscious, that is what a “nothing” afterlife would be like, which we’ve all experienced.

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              lmao

              bruh

              both situations involve unconsciousness. I’m not saying there is nothing in the after life and I know that, I’m saying the sensation is similar in both situations IF there is nothing else after life.

              I’m not putting any more effort into this conversation. Peace.

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    When powered on, a TV or computer monitor can output black. When powered off, the lack of signal is noticeably different than the black output. You do not experience a lack of signal.

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    We are hard-wired to fear death so we don’t usher it on. By the time we are old enough to die of natural causes, we are in enough pain and so starved for serotonin that we’re more or less ok with it.

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    People post this expecting it will make death more comfortable, but all it does is make contemplating the past less so.

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      Imagine if you got kicked in the nuts and then you stopped existing. You don’t exist, so it can’t hurt and you can’t worry about it what with your non-exisistent mind to not think about it.

      Also, you don’t get a choice. You can worry about the sun setting, but that doesn’t stop it. Just try to enjoy the sunshine while you can and learn to be ok with the fact that night will eventually come.

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        The argument was “it happened before so it’s fine” which is an absurd argument, and I’m just pointing out the absurdity.

        “You don’t get a choice so it’s fine” is also an absurd argument. If someone kidnapped me, bound me up, and expressed their intention to cut off my hand, then I would worry about it even if I had no choice. If you’re telling me you wouldn’t be worrying in that situation, you’re a liar or incredibly abnormal. Lack of choice plays nearly no part in the degree of worry.

        What can help alleviate worry is knowledge, but here is a topic that is impossible to learn about.

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    Because existence outside the void is glorious and beautiful and painful and strange; the Void is just empty nothingness, forever, and should not be cherished.

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    I only care about other people dying. Not afraid of my own death at all, except in how I know it will affect others. If I knew no one would care or remember that I existed, I’d skip to my death like I’m off to see the Wizard.

    Being not alive is not even another state of being. There is nothing to do the “being” on either side of alivetude. It’s not like, once dead, you’re now in Phase 3 of beingosity (the first two phases being pre-alive and alive). Your energy and nutrients will serve other purposes, but we’re talking about consciousness here, and that is as fragile and malleable as a flaccid penis, and as temporary and fleeting as a decent erection.

    A way I like to conceptualise it is with this thought experiment:

    Everyone on Earth has the power of telepathy, except you. You try to explain what not being able to read or transmit thoughts is like, and the other people who do have telepathy are struggling to grasp it. “Is it like a dial tone? Or is it maybe the ambient silence when you’re in a room with nothing making noise, like the sound of your own bodily vibrations?” and you have to be like “no, it’s none of those things, because those things are all still imagining the presence of a sensory platform that just doesn’t exist in me. It’s not a faulty telepathy, it’s complete absence of it that doesn’t hint at its own absence, there is no telepathy hole in my brain that I can finger, it’s all solid and complete as far as my sense of self is concerned”.

    Death is nothing to be afraid of. Your fears and anxieties around it are all supposing the ability to retain hindsight once the process is completed, like you’ll watch the party continue without you and that you’ll miss out on things that would make you happy. You’re simply projecting yourself forward in time, perhaps imagining yourself in some weird paralysed state, uninvolved in life, but still there. You’ll have no framework within which to experience experience. So fuckin’ relax and enjoy yourself and try to make everyone else’s ride as nice as you can. That’s literally all there is to it.

    Oh, and MILF porn.