• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    Or effectively F2P/MTX based ones, even if they have an upfront cost.

    And it’s not even counting mobile.

    I hear a lot about the resurgance of honest, pay-upfront games, but revenue sure isn’t supporting that.

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      F2P games are subsidized by a small minority who will throw a hundred dollars a month into the game to obtain and max out whatever FOMO event or item/character is on rotation, and by an even smaller group of obscenely wealthy (or mentally ill) players who will spend tens of thousands of dollars just to say they own everything.

      I’d honestly be fine with this model if the ones funding it were treated like patrons of the arts or something, but instead the industry hired a bunch of psychologists to run incredibly unethical experiments to create literally addictive design patterns encouraging the weak-willed or mentally ill to spend more.

      Modern F2P game design is predatory and downright evil in the way it’s carefully cultivated to be just fun enough to continue playing, while constantly dangling the promise of more enjoyment if you’d only spend a tiny bit more (with that ‘bit more’ often only granting a small chance at getting what you want, with ‘pity’ systems only guaranteeing the desired drop if you spend the equivalent of around a hundred bucks in premium currency). But since it’s obscenely profitable, I don’t foresee it going away without legislation banning those practices.

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        Yeah, that’s what I hate about Genshin Impact most - the predatory gacha and FOMO-exploiting business model ruining what would otherwise be a peak game I could recommend to basically anyone.

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        It depends, it’s certainly inaccurate to describe all F2P games as doing this. Runescape, at least back in the 2000s, was F2P or a monthly sub. That was it.

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          Runescape also was a free game at a time when those weren’t really common. I honestly can’t think of any others with the scope of RS.

          Not only was it free, it ran entirely in a browser window.

          That’s how it managed to build its player base, and it coasts on that nostalgia to this day.

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              11 days ago

              Miniclip, Newgrounds, and similar felt more like mini games.

              For free and in browser with some actual progression, I can think of RuneScape and those Artix Adventure Quest series games. I played both, but Runescape definitely felt like more of a complete game with 3D models and all.

              God, I had forgotten how bad those Artix games were til I remembered them just now.

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        11 days ago

        Regardless of whatever fraction most of the revenue comes from, they still draw absolutely massive amounts of players.