Was there ever a MS Teams feature anyone actually liked? Seems like the whole product is based on loathing.
Loathing and fellating their corporate partners. Every part of Teams is extremely user-hostile…
Teams isn’t made for the users.
I can’t for the life of me figure out who it is for.
Features Microsoft wants to push and features companies want. It’s widely used because IT departments can just buy Office 365 and have all of the office apps and support for however they’re hosting the rest of their office 365 apps but that doesn’t mean it’s good
Good to remember that the client for Teams isn’t you - it’s your IT department
It’s for CSuite that doesn’t wanna pay for slack but sees teams bundled in office and says “good enough”
Well to be fair slack is quite expensive, and getting worse every year. Both in price and usability.
They recently cribbed the Catch Up feature directly from Slack. I’m a big fan of that. Come up with a good feature on their own? Nah.
I mean, that has been Microsoft’s MO for their entire existence. With the exception of maybe some versions of Visual Studio, everything they have done was see what they can copy off their competitors.
Wasn’t the original Visual Studio just Borland Turbo C++ with a non-ascii GUI?
I bet some employers love that shit. They are Microslop Teams‘ main customers. Making our life miserable is a feature.
If your whole ecosystem is in azure, it kind of works. Similar to gsuite
… For the admin. It’s easy for the admin. That’s not the users.
I was at Shiny Night at one of the local Seattle furry bars a little while back and wound up hanging out with a bunch of folks in really well articulated fursuits talking shop. Eventually, as it does with any group of devs, the topic drifted to the classic game of “who hates Teams the most” and unfortunately it turned out the people I was drinking with:
1- Were mostly M$ developers working on Teams doing their ‘team bonding’ polycule thing.
2- Hate teams more than I could possibly ever manage. I mean, you think you hate teams? You think it’s unmanagable, insecure, convoluted and a pain in the ass for your IT crew? Imagine what the backend for that disaster must look like, then make that your entire day job. My god, it was a level of vitriol matched only by discussing Deutsche Bhan with a group of drunk Germans…
“Users may hate”
Sweety, we already hate everything MS. Take a wild guess…
Management on the other hand …
Am management. Still hate it. Costs a fucking fortune, sprawls beyond any reasonable control, fucking impossible to secure, every product has its own operating model and support, it changes every month, and the notion of leaving it is absurd. It is a disease that everyone is infected with and their sales people will never let you go. Also, it’s not like I can log into a central portal and see my employees on a map or something. I can’t see their searches, their teams chats, nothing really. Maybe HR could if they weren’t in the parking lot eating old cigarette butts or whatever it is they do.
Its like herpes.
Yep, not to mention it’s a basic messaging program, but it regularly uses 1-2gb of ram on a lot of machines at my workplace. Had a coworker vibe code a lightweight version (terminal based), he pretty easily got it down to 80ish mb, and it mostly worked (the whole thing was mostly for shits and giggles, but surprisingly usable).
Hmm…
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Wow, and what an image…
Should give the teams logo a whip at this point
Users “may” hate?
Many also do not care, unfortunately.
Let’s not get that Lemmy echo chamber vibe where a few dozen of us agree that millions of Windows users don’t exist.
Many also do not care, unfortunately.
Meh. It’s a work thing and corporate bobbleheads say I need to use it. Then they’ll pay for me to wait for their mandated things to start/connect/work/do whatever. It’s mostly usable enough to get my shit done, it randomly shows whatever status on my account which I couldn’t care less. And the moment I log off I don’t care if the place is literally on fire.
It’s after all just work and nothing more. There are way more important things in life.
Hell, most people don’t know the difference between a search engine and a browser
Microsoft says that this feature is basically a replacement for physical workplace check-in peripherals, it reduces the need to manually update your status
Considering how much I have to manually fix my regular teams status, I have doubts as to how effective this will be.
It would be very useful me to know if a colleague is in the office or not without the need to message them and wait for answer.
But yes, I have to fix my status roughly once per day, so I have doubt this feature will work properly.
It would be very useful me to know if a colleague is in the office or not without the need to message them and wait for answer.
But if you know they’re in the office, aren’t you then going to message them and wait for an answer?
it reduces the need to manually update your status, and it also enables co-workers to know that you’re at work so that they can coordinate in-person meetings with you.
They’re not even trying with these weak ass justifications anymore. Are either of these things an actual problem for anyone?
“Hey are you in the office” works well, too.
But IME if I am, they are just lining up at my door anyway and I can’t focus on actual work. At least when I WFH, I can ignore “hey you got a sec?” until I actually do.
“Hey are you in the office” is too much social interaction for the antisocial mindset of techbros it’d seem
My status is permanently set to Away so that people don’t bother me with stupid questions like “are you in the office”, although for some reason teams randomly resets my status to green every couple of weeks until I notice the increase in stupid questions.
If it’s a new Teams feature I’m going to hate it regardless of what it does. MS doesn’t make software for human beings any more.
I too have a hard time seeing management as human,
We aren’t. When you humans are busy working, we go to the basement and eat the remants of your souls.
We also go to a lot of pointless meetings.
It will also introduce 50 new product-breaking bugs
My company device already has so much surveillance on it that this won’t make a meaningful difference to me.
However, given that they can’t even get my activity status right, I don’t see it going well. For example It sets me we idle even if I’m typing furiously in my editor, unless I go wave my mouse cursor in Teams for a few seconds. Other chat apps got this right decades ago.
It doesn’t deliver messages or delivers them out of order. Unread status on messages doesn’t work right. It crashes randomly. I could go on.
Fix the core functionality, Microsoft, instead of adding all kinds of big brother bullshit. I don’t trust Teams to get anything right and neither should my manager.
Even better when you have multiple machines logged in.
I am simultaneously presenting in a call and magically away from my desk, soon to be while working remotely and sitting at a desk in the office.
Fucking idiots.
The activity issue finally just made me set to appear offline. I was irrationally paranoid that my manager or skip would see me away most of the time and think that I wasn’t showing up for work, even though I was sitting there typing away.
The worst part is that even if I set my status in the status bar to “available” once I noticed it was away, it sometimes would just set itself back to away instantly. Opening up teams and clicking in the window seems to be the only way to get that to not happen.
I look forward to everyone being shown as located in the major city where our VPN is listed instead of where we actually are. That’s how it works for browsers and other location based functionality now.
Even without VPN, IP-based location has always shown me in all sorts of random places, sometimes even in the opposite end of my country. Guess it’s an ISP thing.
This is using your office network/wifi SSID to set your location status in Teams. It’s not sharing your location when you’re nothing the office.
Also, it’s opt-in.
Location: at work.
Since teams is for connecting people remotely (office to office, office to other departments, etc) what sense does this make?
Being “in office” has nothing to do with my location.
Microsoft sucks so much.
Easier to control if your employee is actually at the office instead of working from home.
It’s not like the pandemic proved most office jobs could actually be done remotely…
wasnt it only yesterday that Gremlin Satya Nutella was telling employees they should not be tracking their staff?
Nutella gremlins?
Is it possible to hate Teams more?
Always.
im sure there ar eother ways of tracking thier progress, like thier work/projects done on a deadline. its more or less a control issue.
