• bequirtle@lemmy.world
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    I’ll never understand what part of driving a 2-ton metal machine makes people think you’re an asshole for not doing it recklessly enough

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    If I see you compromising public safety because you think you’re above the rules we set in place to keep our communities safe, then I’m calling you worse things than thundertwat.

    Yellow means stop if you can. It’s not permission to drive recklessly in order to save yourself a minute of time.

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      Makes me happy.

      Absolutely no need to rush and drive recklessly to save 1-2 minutes on your commute.

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    If you think you made it, it’s just because you couldn’t see the stoplight turning red just as you entered the crossroads

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    Bah! You’ll be fine, just speed to the next light.

    How long does a stop light take? Three minutes? Look at your damn phone, that’s all you’re going to do when you get wherever you’re going, anyway.

  • BlueFootedPetey@sh.itjust.works
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    Yellow doesnt mean speed up, its means stop. If you drive like an asshole, call me whatever you want. I dont care what assholes think of me.

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    Yeah the only time you’re not supposed to stop on yellow is if it comes on while you’re too close to stop safely, it’s still a stop signal, it’s just the one that gives you a margin if you’re already going. Also you should be preparing to stop at traffic lights anyway. If it stays green then great.

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    Yes! Just fucking go! I’m trying to get somewhere. And if you’re one of the sibling comments talking about public safety, we can be safe and still make the light without speeding up. That’s why we have yellow so people don’t have to brake hard.

    A surprising number of people here don’t seem to understand that you can coast without being a dick. No one said to press the gas peddle. They said you might not need to brake.

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    I’m in no rush to be anywhere, anytime. If my caution and safety are a detriment to your schedule, that’s your problem. Maybe you should leave with more time to get wherever you’re going safely instead of trying to rush the yellow lights and put everyone else’s lives at risk.

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      This. Yellow means stop if you can (edit: if you can safely)

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        Yellow means stop if you can… do so safely.

        If you’re going to fast to make a normal turn at the light, you’re too close to that intersection to stop safely, and you should proceed without braking.

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          Yes that’s what I meant as well. I’ll edit to make it clear.

      • Cenzorrll@lemmy.world
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        Yellow means it’s turning red. Beyond that the safest way to treat it is how everyone else in the area treats it. It’s like what I tell my stepson, it’s better to be predictable than right. There’s a lot of dead pedestrians and cyclists that had the right of way.

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          Agreed that predictability is the priority on the road. But people shouldn’t be expecting everyone to rush through yellows with disregard either.

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            As a driver should be expecting it, but not upset when they don’t.

            As a pedestrian you have to expect it, and be pleasantly surprised when they do.

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        if you can

        That is the key though. I see so many people treat the yellow light like “you must be at a stop before it turns red… right now” and slam on the brakes even though they could have made it through either at their current speed or slightly speeding up.

        But instead they create a dangerous situation where the car behind them almost rear ends them.

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          That dangerous situation is created by the following driver and their failure to maintain a safe following distance

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          If you need to speed up to make it through, you were either going too fast or could have stopped. Which is it?

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          Red light cameras are partly to blame; it makes people more afraid to safely clear the intersection instead of slamming on the brakes

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            Only if the light timings are such that stopping in time is difficult. Which I know is the case in some shitty places, but it’s the fault of the timings, not the cameras.

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              It’s a once burned, twice shy sort of thing where even if people are technically ok to continue through they might really (ironically) air on the side of caution and aggressively stop to avoid that red light ticket.

              Never mind some municipalities were caught shortening the yellow light timings specifically to aid the red light cameras in ticketing more people.

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              What? No. It has nothing to do with the timing. You could give 12 seconds yellow lights, plenty enough time to get through, but as soon as you put up a camera, some jackass is still going to come to a complete stop rather than risk the possibility of a camera catching them “running” a red light.

              It has nothing to do with the timing of the lights, and everything to do with the psychology of people being recorded.

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                If it lasts 12 seconds, you have 12 seconds between the light turning amber and it turning red. No-one is slamming on the moment it turns to amber, because no-one believes they will blast through it if they continue at that point. There is no risk, so the psychology of people can’t make them avoid the risk.

                The timings are inseparable.

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                  You’re assuming you know how long it lasts, as does everyone else on the road. That is an exceptionally poor assumption. You can’t make that assumption simply because you set the timing on your traffic light to 12 seconds of yellow. To make that assumption, every driver who sees your traffic light must not have ever seen any traffic light with a shorter yellow. One driver whose home town used 3-second yellow lights and red light cameras is not going to know you use 12-second yellows, and he’s going to slam on his brakes as soon as they come on. Your 12-second drivers behind him are going to be forced to panic stop because of him.

                  If his home town used 3-second yellows without traffic cameras, without excessive enforcement, he’s going to roll through anyway. He’s not going to slam on his brakes

    • lobut@lemmy.ca
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      I had two different instances of a yellow light.

      I was approaching an intersection and someone made their left slowly in front of me causing me to slow down as I approached and I kept going cause it was turning yellow and could still make it and got honked like hell.

      Next day I saw a light turning yellow well ahead of me so I applied the brake early because it’s like a 70(km/h) to signal that I’m going to stop and then stopped before crossing. The person behind me didn’t anticipate that and turned at the last second to just miss rear-ending me. My brake lights were active for a hell of a long time so I’m not sure what they were doing.

      I say both of these stories because I hate driving in general…

    • sharkweek@sopuli.xyz
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      I have been an aggressive driver in the past, but I’ve gotta say that some serious time in developing nations has really chilled me the fuck out.

      One coworker said his commute was his favourite time of day, because he just putters along at 20mph on his scooter and feels at peace with the world … I could use that in my life :-)

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        Because you don’t know when exactly the red will come, so you might blast through on red, which should be obvious enough as to why it’s dangerous.

        The point of amber/yellow lights is a signal to stop that you can ignore without risk if it’s already too late to stop, as opposed to reds which are the actual protection against conflict. Is that not fucking obvious?

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          The state of the LEDs doesn’t mean anything for safety. It is however dangerous to impede on opposing traffic’s right of way. Reds don’t provide protection, it’s just a clear signal for right of way. It’s also dangerous AF to drive assuming green lights give protection. It’s just right of way.

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              It doesn’t necessarily risk lives. “Running red” is dependent on the state of some LEDs. It’s dangerous to impede the right of way of a vehicle traveling at high speeds. It’s much less dangerous to run a red that’s been red for one second rather than, say, 15.

              Driving itself risks lives.

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    At least in my country and I suspect many others, yellow / amber mean “stop if it’s safe to do so”, effectively the same as a red light.

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    Yellow means stop; but you don’t get a fine in case you can’t stop safely.

    Red means stop; if you’re in the intersection for even 1/100th of a second you can get fined.

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    This isn’t the real crime. The real crime is going slow enough we both could have made it, then accelerating when you see it turn yellow so only you get through the light.

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      I don’t get it. If both of you would have made it at a slower speed, how does accelerating mean only the front vehicle now does?

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        something like: “Both of them could have make it at 40km/h but the Huy in front was driving at 30 km/h and just accelerated at 60km/h when they noticed the yellow light and only them made it on time”

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        Implication is if they were going at the final speed they ended up at the whole time, both could have got through.