Let me ask Facebook how credible this study is…
@Grok, is this legit?
Tap for spoiler
/s
*grok speaks against the favor of petroleum industry and is taken offline to be lobotomized yet another time*
What we really should have done is made the Car Talk guys president. If there’s one thing I know for sure, it’s that those two would never have forced me to listen to what some MIT grad thinks.
Absolute gold! (The hosts of Car Talk were both MIT grads)
MIT Study VS Facebook posts. Hard choice.
Well the Misinformation Institute of Technology just cannot be trusted. It’s in the name!!
Everyone who was around during the pandemic knows that facebook is gonna win
Yeah but I heard this one scientist said one time that EVs actually cause more cancers and make trees grow less leaves
EVs beat me up and killed my dog.
EVs stole my wife and shot my kids.
EVs turned me into a newt!
A newt?
I got better?
You got cybercucked
Trans trees! And bushes! Trans nature!
Is that what you want!?
The solar panels on my roof that I use to charge my car suck up all the sun and stop my grass growing
Was that a scientist, or scientologist?
Maybe someone with a political science degree?
Speaking as someone who has worked on plenty of gasoline powered cars… Duh. The most obvious waste product an internal combustion car makes other than the exhaust is the used oil. Have to do something with it. Have to make sure the engine isn’t leaking out into the environment when it’s running.
Even if you are charging your car from a coal plant, it’s more efficient. A coal power plant runs at one speed/output all the time. Gas cars have to throttle up and down. Each gas car has to be maintained by the person owning it, while the power plant has a maintenance team and inspections.
Also to the throttling up and down, the power plant, or even a gasoline generator sitting in the car itself, will always run at peak efficiency. Even a gasoline car sitting on the highway for 4hrs isn’t running at peak efficiency and a lot of that energy is lost in heat through the transmission.
The batteries do contain rare minerals like lithium but these can be recovered and recycled. EVs can be charged with solar, wind and other renewables even tho many places in the USA still burn coal or natural gas.
Once you burn gasoline in your ICE vehicle then it’s gone, it turns into gasses that go into the atmosphere and can’t easily be recovered into anything of much use.
EVs are the future and we all know it. Gasoline will continue to become more expensive and more difficult to extract.
I’d argue with the level of shit were in with the climate, the no cars lifestyle should be the future.
It might be in a few nations with strong public transit already like Japan and a number or European nations but honestly idk if it will ever happen in the USA at least not in my life time.
We went from zero cars to everything covered in cars in a lifetime, we can go back in a lifetime.
Attitudes around public transport have to change. It’s seen as a thing poor people use in some cities so the affluent kill expansion efforts. And even where it doesn’t have that stigma, nobody wants to pay for infrastructure.
It’s so neat to have a problem that combines poor numeracy with not being able to see two steps ahead. Yeah, if could somehow grow the Venn diagram of people with those two skills that would be great.
OK but that’s about as realistic in the next 40+ years as genetically engineered flying pigs.
Incremental progress is good.
Then I guess surviving the climate collapse will be just as realistic.
Incrementalism is what has killed us. Incrementalism plus crony capitalism equals absolute zero.
I can tell you that keeping an existing decent ICE is better than buying a new EV. But once you have to buy a new car anyway, and an EV fits your usage pattern and operational environment there are no reasons not to buy one.
worst part of getting old is watching everyone around you gradually get dumber
The only “everyone” are trolls, paid or otherwise, the ignorant, and right wingnuts parroting the trolls and ignorant.
And there are a shitload of them who all seem to want to show off that opinion.
That does sound like everyone on Facebook
Don’t underestimate the ignorant.
Especially their numbers
I think the ignorant still fall into trolls category (paid or not). They’re just an extension of them being effective.
And idiots who spend lots of money on overpriced ice cars to impress their mates
That’s why they are so concerned about the resell value in a years time, because they’re not buying the car they want, only one that is fashionable
You reduced it to about 70% of the population.
If only there was a YouTuber that covered this months ago…
Oh wait
I love Alex, literally just watched his fan video, but you can’t act like that one video is all we need on the subject. “There’s already a video on that” doesn’t really help anyone trying to bring awareness to a massive issue
You can’t rationally argue someone out of a position that they didn’t rationally enter in the first place.
When somebody says “You’re wrong, watch this hour long video by a youtuber to find out why”, have you ever watched the videos they linked?
Yes! But I’m definitely an oddball. I also read the terms of serving refuse to use services that have terms I disagree with.
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I happen to have seen that one before. It’s very layered … like an onion.
Of course you can. It just takes patience.
It’s literally what psychologists do for a living
I like technology connections but no way in hell should you be advocating for people on Facebook to get their facts from youtubers.
More like gaylord_factmaster
Don’t worry, they’ll find something on YouTube that’ll confirm their bias. They won’t watch a 1.5h video though.
Hey, I did my own research!!!1!1!!
How do you discover new things or form opinions?
How do I wat?
What are opinions?
Yeah, I have only facts, non of those opinions.
Theys easy to find. Opinions make you cry when you cut them.
No, you’re thinking of onions. Opinions are American marsupials known for confusing predators by pretending to be dead.
No, you’re thinking of opossums. Opinions are a class of pain medications that are now tightly controlled due to the high likelihood of addiction.
I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of opioids. Opinions are animals that regularly consume both plant and animal matter.
that college buddy who dropped grad school to become a chiropractor
Gold.
Gas cars are better! (says the gas station owner)
I genuinely thought i misread the title… Wtf
People platform-independently use social media echo chambers to reinforce their own biases and suppress contrary thinking. I think it’s an attempt to find comfort zones and avoid self-questioning, which is inherently uncomfortable and involves effort.
Is lemmy the same kind of comfortable echo chamber?
yes
