How long do you think we would last?

  • slazer2au@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    Immediate? no. Rapid, yes.

    We have had mass communication since before the internet and those technologies still exist outside the internet. (TV, phones, radio)

    The internet is not as fragile as people think, small pockets of internet will come back online independently of each other and will eventually become interconnected again. Maybe a month to get a country up and going and then a couple more months to get continents connected again.

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      18 days ago

      I see an immediate collapse followed by a quick recovery, personally. If the Internet goes down, a lot of other shit goes down too…until we get the old telegraph lines running again.

    • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
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      18 days ago

      I wonder how many would know how to get a radio if it came to it. “Okay, I just need to get a radio from Amazon… Shiiiiit”

      • slazer2au@lemmy.world
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        18 days ago

        Pretty much all cars come with radios… If not there are many shops that play the radio as in store music.

        • Kraiden@piefed.social
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          18 days ago

          I’ve actually gone back to listening to the radio. The music is shit, but I don’t have to think about it, and the hosts chatter is surprisingly comforting. Great background noise for working or chores

  • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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    18 days ago

    Define what you mean by “blackout.”

    It’s a network of networks. If every connected device suddenly went offline, yeah, there’d be turmoil and a lot of deaths before things stabilized.

    But if you really mean “all the backbone cables went offline” or “all the ISPs shut down” or “all the CDNs crashed” or “the top 20 services vanished” then the answers would be different.

    The internet can technically run over carrier pigeon, after all. And some countries have already had “no Internet” days without collapsing.

  • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    Just internet? No. The world existed for a while before the Internet and many of the people who lived during that time are still alive and would know how to get by without entertainment. Of terrestrial television and radio are still functioning then the world will not lose much and continue on how it did 30 years ago.

    Just because many people can’t imagine a world with the Internet doesn’t mean that it is critical to life.

    • andyburke@fedia.io
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      18 days ago

      ☝️ this.

      Please, if any of you honestly are entertaining the idea that the internet is necessary for society, I urge you to go outside and get some non-digital hobbies and/or meet some people offline.

      It’s good for you.

  • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net
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    18 days ago

    Depends what causes it.

    Nasty worm, no biggie, people will be confident it can be fixed quickly.

    Carrington Event (think worldwide EMP), instant collapse, planes falling out of the sky, computers fried, cars since 1990 (guess) dead, hospitals destroyed and on and on.

    • Mirshe@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      Yeah, even a coordinated attack on physical networking backbones wouldn’t be TOO rough. We’d have to piece together what’s left and figure out what to replace, but there’s enough worldwide structure that we can do that in a pretty coordinated manner even without the Internet - it would probably just take a lot longer. I feel that a lot of the West would be the worst off, but surprisingly, a lot of governments already have plans for stuff like this. I feel even with incompetence, you’d be looking at 2-3 years max, but I don’t think you’d see Purge-style societal collapse or whatever you’re envisioning.

      • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net
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        18 days ago

        I don’t envision anything Purge style, but a C.E. (look it up, 1859) would be really bad and I expect significantly longer than 2-3 years, Means of Production (tractors, industrial equipment, semiconductor factories, transport) would all be fried too. Can’t see us avoiding mass starvation in even 2 years.

  • BeUnique@lemmy.zip
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    18 days ago

    If you’re worried about that, you should check out a Meshtastic node. Even if infrastructure fails, that network will remain online as long as there’s people using them within range and functioning GPS satellites in the sky.

    Since everyone that uses one helps transport encrypted or unencrypted traffic, there is no single point of failure.

  • Beetschnapps@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    I doubt it. We all want to believe that a quick loss of service will cause societal collapse but the reality is people are much more resilient.

    Think back to the nyc blackout in 2003, you’d think it would result in mad max style craziness.

    But what actually happened was most folks chilling out together with no real crime wave and the only issue was bodegas overcharging fools for ice cubes.

    I say this provided that the blackout was temporary.

    If the shit was permanent then that’s a different issue. At a certain point insulin goes bad, antibiotics go bad, everything rots and you have a different scenario entirely.

  • Magister@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    No, but I’m working from home so would need to go to the office… as a software developer it would hit hard!

  • Denixen@feddit.nu
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    18 days ago

    A financial collapse almost certainly and business would struggle until they find alternatives, especially the service sector. But manufacturing, construction and agriculture is not as dependent on internet for day to day operations.

    Social I think it would probably be a boom and when internet get back online a lot of people might look back at the blackout as a refreshing experience.

    At least that’s my take.

  • folekaule@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    It depends how long it lasts. A day, two days, forever?

    We can probably deal with a day, but it would be very very expensive and take a while to clean up.

    Permanent? That would be extremely bad. Entire industries would collapse, with unemployment skyrocketing. Financial losses of unprecedented scale. I don’t even know where to start.

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        18 days ago

        Yep. A lot of things would go sideways in healthcare if the Internet was down for an extended period of time. Yes, there are paper-based backup processes and so on, but they can only hold for so long. I don’t think people realize how much stuff is already in the cloud that we all depend on.

  • HubertManne@piefed.social
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    18 days ago

    So. Its sorta impossible for this to happen and still have computers. The internet is mostly just logic systems on computers the transmission media can be kinda anything. Since databases have the records things might be slower but everything would still be there.