People don’t even want you to play a video game in private now.

"Gibbons cut in: “They’re illegal. They are not in any way affiliated with Microsoft. Microsoft, for Minecraft, has gotten a lot of criticism because of those community servers not employing the same safety standards that Microsoft does on their Minecraft servers.”

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    Anything that makes companies lose the slightest bit of control they want to make illegal. If they can’t endlessly milk you for money it’s a problem.

    If Minecraft came out today it would be a subscription service or at the very least would have season packs and cosmetics.

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    I mean, isn’t there a EULA for hosting MC servers. As long as you agree, you’re free to host. Wonder how long before they rescind it or alter it completely if at all.

    Been playing Vintage Story anyway. It’s giving me that feeling of when I first started playing minecraft. More complex but makes me nostalgic.

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    […] and just to clear this up right away: what she said was nonsense. You can, literally right now, head over to the official Minecraft website and download a .jar file to let you run your own private server.

    I love how confidently stupid and wrong she was here.

    What I fucking hate is this pattern of attacks on open source and self-hosting we’ve been seeing. Anthropic’s CEO saying that open source self-hosted LLMs are “dangerous” for example.

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      Open source LLMs are very dangerous for their bottom line, they have all the same problems as non open source LLMs and the shareholders don’t even make money off of them!

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      Yes. This is a classic case of a large company buying an open source product that was specifically designed to get children to be creative and build their own worlds and then deciding that such usage is illegal unless you pay loads of money.

      A perfect snapshot of enshitification.

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      It’s not just open source and self-hosting. They’re going after Steam because they actually treat their customers well. Despite still not truly owning your games on their, you basically do. As long as Steam is good, gamers won’t forget that services can be good, and we can’t have that, can we?

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            i have all b and a sides, 5 golden berries, and 3 c sides, currently im playing strawberry jam

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              waow thats based

              i have two golden berries, i think. i definitely have the winged one, and maybe another.

              ive yet to play strawberry jam. it seems like it might be harder than getting all the golden berries? im not sure.

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                strawberry jam has 5 lobbies, the first is comparable to a bit hardrr a-sides, the second is more like b sides and idk how about the rest i didnt play them yet. anyway its much easier than most of goldens, and for sure easier than getting them all because there is only around 200 players who got all the berries (because of farewell)

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          For real. I think it ended up being alright, but they sued Valve because of gambling in Counter Strike‽ Like, have they never heard of Overwatch‽

          Meanwhile, “Epic” Games profits off of kids who sneak their parents’ credit cards for whatever nonsense is going on in Fortnite, and Roblox is full of predators!

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      Nice LLM you have there. Be a real shame if one that costs 1/10 the price (and another that can run on a consumer rig self hosted) could outperform it.

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      Oh but they are VERY dangerous. Dangerous for the 1%’s wealth. What will they do if they have to downsize their billion dollar yachts???

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        But the thing is? They’re not. Billionaires would still be billionaires without attacking open source and self hosting.

        The problem is that billionaires are hungry ghosts. It’s not enough to be fabulously wealthy, they just want more. Forever.

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    People really ought to be held legally accountable for explicitly lying in situations like this. Lying to legislators should be illegal just like lying to the courts is purjury

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    For a moment I was so confused as to why the European Space Agency is attacking Minecraft servers.

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    You would think that an organization like this would have a better understanding than the average person

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainment_Software_Association

    The Entertainment Software Association (ESA) is the trade association of the video game industry in the United States. It was formed in April 1994 as the Interactive Digital Software Association (IDSA)[1] and renamed on July 21, 2003. It is based in Washington, D.C.[2][3] Most of the top publishers in the video game industry (or their American subsidiaries) are members of the ESA.

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      why would you think that? The ESA is a collection of suits created for the sole purpose of making money. They only care about games insofar as it enriches them.

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      They “understand” just fine. They’re trying to normalize the destruction of property rights on purpose because they absolutely loathe the idea of anyone not continuously paying them rentier fees for absolutely nothing in return.

      They are evil and must be destroyed.

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        That’s fine. If property rights don’t exist then there’s no legal basis to charge us with anything if we burn their houses and businesses down. We just need to make sure they’re unoccupied at the time.

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    I thought only kids played minecraft. Are there really still that many adults playing a children’s game?

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      The game came out in 2009. If you started playing as a two-year old child then, you’d be an adult now. A thirteen-year-old child would be a thirty-year-old adult.

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        So why would a 30-year old adult still be playing a game he played at 13? I understand 13 year olds playing it, I don’t understand 30-year olds playing it

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          There definitely are things you grow out of. Things you liked as a child, that maybe you remember fondly, or can categorise as ‘thing I liked’, but won’t entertain you as an adult. So I understand the core of what you’re saying. But there are more things you liked as a child that, assuming the thing and context hasn’t changed, you would still like as an adult. Did you like Pizza at 13? Did you stop liking Pizza since? Or chocolate cake. Or beer. Or the film Back to the Future?

          The things you liked about Minecraft are still around in modern Minecraft. It’s more likely that you’ll still like it on the same merit than that it appealed to a part of you that has changed.

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            I’ve definitely outgrown most of the movies, toys, and videogames that I enjoyed as a child. The only people I know who play and love minecraft are kids of my friends. Even my daughter outgrew it, and she’s 15.