40 below the lowest possible temperature? -313.15°C
Yeah -40 K overflows and becomes 18,446,744,073,709,551,535 K
-72 Rankine
One time my brother and i were testing eachother on our conversion (yes we are both very cool) and he gave me -40F just on a whim and i was trying to do it quick ad not accurate but it was just so plainly -40C that i couldnt believe it and we even looked up graphs and shit to see wtf. That was how i learned that one
Americans have compatibility issues with the rest of the world, and it’s not getting any better - in more ways than this one.
It literally doesn’t matter.
Tell that to The Mars Climate Orbiter
I wince every time I come in contact with this archaic form of measurement. And then have to convert everything myself just to get an idea of what they are saying.
I only have this problem if the content comes from 3 countries, the other 192 do not have this problem.
30 degrees Fahrenheit? Hell yeah. It’s practically tropical. If it’s sunny as well, I’ll be rolling my windows down.
(Not me in pic, but I’ve been him)
Today is 42.2 C for me today. Then you factor humidity on top of that and it becomes like the gates of hell. Then I remember that I live in dallas and I basically already am in hell.
The European mind can not comprehend…
We do now, where we live in France we just had 44°. So my condolences and please stay stay safe out there.
Oh shit. Honestly I feel more for you guys than me. We have infrastructure built for it. Everything has AC. I even just put a window unit in my bedroom to take some load off the older main unit that has been struggling to keep up. But over there you were never built for that kind of heat. I wish you all the best with climate change.
Getting AC where we live is very difficult to install (we have 40 to 50cm thick walls) and expensive to run.
That sucks. Yeah - we have those temps in Texas for months at a time, but at least we have air conditioning most places.
It’s also one of the reasons development is so hostile for pedestrians and cyclists here. We design everything around taking air conditioning with us wherever we go, which leads to car-first development.
I was going to make snark remarks on the fact that a lot of people live in hostile environments and it’s not super sustainable because we need climate control year round in every building and cars, but I live in Canada and it would be pretty hypocritical given the fact that I need climate control most of the year too. In fact, sometimes in winter when I watch the endless ballet of machinery burning oil to plow and move the snow, I wonder why we go through such trouble to live here.
I guess we get used to a lot of things. However 42C is too much for my taste. I go vacationing in the Caribbean where it’s usually around 30C, and it’s pretty much my limit.
What’s funny is that I used to live in Phoenix for a year. I would happily take the higher dry heat over the almost as high wet heat. When I lived there it was like walking into an oven and you could feel your sweat pours opening. But the sweating evaporated quickly and provided cooling as long as you stayed hydrated. Shade works and you can see how the natives protected themselves from the sun and had passive cooling that worked. In the wet heat it is more like Satan is pissing on you and you have no hope. Your body is dumping sweat and it does nothing because the humidity is too high to evaporate. Shade? Worthless beyond the immediate sun protection. A few degrees at most. Without AC you will only cool with high winds or a fan.
Fun fact I never knew until living there: when it hits 112 (and it does) the airport has to partially shut down and divert all non-high-temp aircraft. The tarmac is so hot it will pop normal tires at a high rate. So unless you have the expensive higher temp rated tires for planes based out of high temp areas, then you can’t land there when it is too hot.
I mean, we don’t need it. People survived for hundreds of thousands of years without AC in harsh climates. Our adaptability is one of the reasons we’re the dominant species.
Those temps are not abnormal for that part of Texas in the summer. We did have a few years of relatively cool summers, though.
I grew up in Texas. I am peak millennial (dead center of the generation). I remember growing up in Houston and seeing dallas would get light snow most winters and “artic blasts” were never a thing. Heat waves never got above 104. It was a record just hitting it, and was unheard to go above it before that.
Now? Ever year it is all but guaranteed it will get above 104. Normal snow in dallas? Nope. Ice storms from polar vortex collapse only.
This is what climate change looks like. These temps are absolutely abnormal when you look at the hundred plus years of recorded climate data. Our adaption as a species is our technology. AC.
Less our dynamic adaptability, and more due to our evolutionary adaptations. We have several super-powers when it comes to working hard in the heat. They mainly don’t work in high humidity, however.
As a species, we don’t need it, but as individuals we do.
Friday looks pretty chill. Something to look forward to!
I lived in Dallas for 3 years. It is hell. I’ll be praying for your escape.
Hotter than boiling water !
Water boils at 100 centigrade or 212 farenheit. Try again.
European here, just had two weeks of temperatures never going below 30c even at night. I had 34c at 3am the other day… We basically are all in hell at this point.
Yeah, it’s definitely brutal if you’re not acclimated to it.
I flew to San Antonio a few yewrs ago. I remember it being about 10 degrees cooler than Tulsa.
I didn’t go outside in Dallas, though.
The City of Brotherly Hate
Maybe this is from growing up in a place with seasons, but 30C to 30F is a comfortable temperature range and I would be quite pleased to live in a place where those are the extremes.
It was 40C yesterday. Supposed to be 36C today. I think a couple of days in Feburary got down to -26C.
Fuckin’ Oklahoma
30F is great. 30C sucks.
30C is normal but slightly annoying, 30F sucks.
- A Floridian
30F isn’t even cold. Maybe -30F.
30F is when I stop wearing shorts
Oh okay, then 30C isn’t even hot. Maybe 50C or 60C.
The hottest temperature recorded was 56.7C and that was in the US back in 1913. So yeah 50 is hot. 40 is hot. 35 with high humidity is hot. 60 is almost food safe.
Oh we’re pivoting away from personal, subjective opinion and towards objectivity now?
30F is literally freezing, which is obviously below “cold.”
I don’t know, when you’re living in Minnesota and it was -40 a couple of weeks ago and it suddenly hits 30F, everyone is in shorts and T-shirts, it feels warm. And if you’re in Florida and it hits 30F ever, it feels cold. It’s definitely subjective. But it remains true that the US southwest has the record for the hottest weather recorded on earth, so far. That is objective.
Maybe they live on a hill and what they really mean is
Don’t you mean 1/6*π radians?!
When tau says it is 2pi outside…
This is 2pi4me.
As a Minnesotan, 30°F is still shorts weather
Minnesotans at 30°F are a great example of direction mattering, and not just temperature; hit 30 on the way down and you’ll see them change out of shorts, but hit 30 on the way up and you’ll see them change into shorts
A lot of it depends on the wind chill factor. On a calm sunny day— -10F (that’s -23C for those in Houston, TX)—can be very pleasant. But with a damp 25 mph (3.727912328e-8 for those in Tokyo) wind and 60F (that’s 127 Delisle for those in the EU) temperature, it can cut right through you. We send 5 year olds out to play at -10F as long as the wind chill isn’t more than -15.
Source: I live in northern Minnesota, just a bit north of Frostbite Falls.
Come to iowa! It’s 30f one day 30c the next day! And you wear shorts and a hoodie for both!
When it’s 30F and sunny I’m on my snowboard in a t shirt. Course, I’m in Chicago, 30C feels like a nice cool day to do shit outside in summer.
I’m slowly trying to convert myself to metric. Temperature is a hard one for me because it’s so ingrained in my psyche.
Length is easier. 440mm is much easier than 17 21/64 in. Plus all the CAD software I use is easy to switch to metric. Weight isn’t hard either since most of the maker things I use (filament/resin) are in metric. My doctor’s office even weighs me in kg thinking they can sneak it by me. I know what 92.4kg is you cheeky bastards.
Yeah, temperature is weird like that.
I’m an American, but one with an education and an appreciation for the one true system, SI, which is pretty close to metric.
Meters and kilograms make total sense to me, even if I’m conditioned to think in feet and pounds. But temperatures in Celsius just don’t click. I have to consciously try to remember some equivalent Fahrenheit values to get a feel for it.
If you told me the barometric pressure in Pascals I’d literally understand that more quickly, since I deal with pressure measurements and settings at work.
Yeah I don’t use pressure that much so no “muscle memory” to confuse me. And come to think of it I use metric torque (N•m … well more like N•cm with the stepper motors I use).
I always thought SI was the modern metric system and not the antiquated thing the French came up with 200 years ago.
I’m very similar. I have even lived in Europe a couple of times. But I don’t even try to think in Celsius anymore, I just don’t see a benefit and my brain rejects it. 90% of the time when I’m boiling water it’s high up on a mountain and it boils below 100C in elevation. Also who cares if the water is 95C or 200F, it’s not as hot as I’d like it to be.
I am the same way. For me I just memorized 2 C to F conversions and work it as a relativity from there. 22C is about 72F, the perfect inside temp to me. Then because I live in a hot place my other anchor is 40C being 104F. To me that is the threshold going from “fuck this is hot” to “shitty hot, avoid outside”.
I would recommend just memorizing some key anchor points that are normal for your climate and learning from those.
That’s a very good idea. I may start doing that. I should convert my home thermostat but I’m pretty sure my wife would balk at it being set to “so cold” (23°C or so)
For april fools one year I released a drawing package in metric. Merriment was had.
Mostly by me.
It’s the first kind of 30° here today
And it’s not wrong when it says that’s MUCH COOLER than yesterday
30 C isn’t that hot… hell, half of the country is regularly above that for over half the year.
And 30 F isn’t really that cold. Throw a hoodie on or maybe a light jacket.
I wish it were 30 F right now. I’m ready for summer to be over.
That’s why I’m glad I live where I’m more likely to complain about it being -40.
Eh, it’s all the same to me
Grand Forks, ND and MN would like a word…
UND represent!
Go Bison! :P
Not even mad; I don’t have any real connection to the Fighting Hawks - it was still the Fighting Sioux when I was there. Funny thing was that we were always technically the Flickertails on paper anyway, along with the green and pink official colors that they always liked to pretend were actually green and white.
When you said you were more likely to complain about -40, I just knew. I literally live in California, but my Dad’s family are from Park Rapids, MN. and avid UNC fans due to many of my family being alums.
100% of my experiences there were cold af minus temps like that.
I was surprised at the accurate guess, to be sure, haha!
Where we going Aunty?
Oh yeh knoe, we gotta drive up n goe too dah UND game tah-day.
But isn’t there a blizzard coming with -50 wind sheer expected?
Sure, but duh hockey team needs us and it’s better than just sittin here. Besides, you’ve gone ice fishin in worse hun…
True story during the 1998 Blizzard.
LOL! I’m a Celsius person.
It’s pleasant here at the moment. 35/95 and 20% humidity. Small thunderstorm passing through.
why they are still not using metric?
Unofficially, people are stubborn and anti-Europe.
If it makes you feel better, some cooks, all scientists and and all people involved in the drug trade are fluent in metric.
Me, an american, carrying a 9mm and buying 3 grams
Hell yeah brother.
Because it provides zero practical benefit for the vast majority of people.
There’s no reason to other than to be the same as everyone else, and we already are for anything scientific or medical.
Because retooling is expensive. I applaud the adaptation, but we have a lot of tools written that way. Also, are patents written in English or metric units? Would that invalidate them?
Because retooling is expensive.
Other countries have done it successfully.
Is the USA incapable of doing things that others have done?
Yes.
Have you seen our healthcare system?
Lol
Expensive for little-to-no benefit.
Wars are a much better investment.
Expensive is relative.
Tell that to The Mars Climate Orbiter
Anyway, it is only going to become more expensive as time goes on. The cheapest was back in 1790. The next cheapest is now.
Parents are written in customary primarily, but the patent office recommends listing units in both for global clarity.
It wouldn’t invalidate them because customary is defined by metric, so there’s no ambiguity. It’s exactly the same as saying “the bar is 1 meter long” vs “the bar is 100 centimeter long”. An inch is just a quaint way to write 25.4 mm.
the same reason they don’t speak french.
you can use metric, just like you can speak french.
but people will think you’re talking gibberish.
Fahrenheit is better than Celsius for weather. It’s a larger scale that doesn’t have to involve decimals.
Celsius is how the temperature feels to water, whereas Fahrenheit is more of how the temperature feels to a human.
But this is basically only true for the temperature ranges seen in weather.
Fahrenheit is how the scale between the temperature of a specific brine solution to the estimated temperature on a specific women with a fever “feels”. It is not based on humans in any way. That is only what Americans like to push because they have only ever known Fahrenheit.
To me Celsius is how the temperature feels to a human. Because that is what I’ve grown up with.
How humans perceive things like temperature also widely ranges. What for some is too hot, for other is too cold. Had Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit grown up in a different climate, your entire temperature scale would be different.
Human senses is thus a dumb way to base any scale on. Better to use something static … like water. One of the most abundant things on our planet.
