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I think there’s a serious disconnect between what liberal means in the US and what it means elsewhere.
Same for conservative
“Conservatives” are usually right wing extremists, thats the same everywhere.
Complexity and nuance of the real world hurts my brain as well
Yeah, and thats the reason why you are a “conservative”.
I think they mean “anyone who doesn’t support Musk/Trump.”
And that’s dumb. I’m “liberal” in the technical sense (i.e. the old definition of liberal, i.e. the founding fathers), but not in the present sense (i.e. “progressive”). I despise Musk and Trump, but I also despise Biden and Harris. I want more personal freedoms, and both major parties seem to be trying to take them away from me, but in different ways and with different justifications.
So I don’t use X, largely because I don’t see a point, but also because I’d really rather avoid all the nonsense from the Musk/Trump fans there. I want free speech, and I’m not convinced X is it.
I know thats the real definition. That doesnt make sense with the posted quote though. Why would Musk care if everyone that didn’t like him left twitter?
He’d lose a lot of money from premium memberships and ad revenue.
“Liberal” in the US means 80’s Reagan Republican.
We are an extremely rightwing society and it is normalized to the point that my fellow citizens can’t even accurately identify Leftist policies. Socialism is considered evil. Our propaganda machine has done its job very effectively for decades.
Well, I do consider socialism to be “evil” because quite often it is non-voluntary. I am 100% on board with voluntary socialism (e.g. unions and co-ops), but I’m very much a fan of consent and really don’t want others to be making decisions for me. A lot of policies I support could be considered “socialist,” but I refuse to identify as socialist because of the proximity to forms that absolutely seek to take away individual self-determinism.
Consider the regimes evil. Socialism is blameless.
What was that leftists like to say about Nazis in a bar? If you tolerate Nazis in your bar, you’re a Nazi bar?
Surely that applies here. So many socialists tolerate or even defend terrible regimes, such as that in Venezuela, China, and Cuba. That certainly doesn’t mean all socialists tolerate it, but given the track record of socialism in producing authoritarian regimes, I have to think that many (most?) willfully ignore it, which is almost as bad. That doesn’t mean every implementation of socialism is bad, it just means I cannot give blanket support to “socialism” and need a lot more qualifiers first.
That’s not why certain people label ‘everyone else’ as liberals.
It is a relative term, like someone considered an extrovert upon coming to the USA would likely be thought of as an introvert.
An because I’m from the USA, I will now add smiley faces - it’s the law. 😊 😁
Like when someone’s considered an asshole and when they go to America all the sudden they’re a patriot?
I never had a Twitter account, so I try not to judge. But… every time I see a screenshot of a post-Musk tweet, I wonder why the hell people are still supporting him by using his platform. PLEASE QUIT, PEOPLE! FOLLOWERS AREN’T THAT IMPORTANT!
I don’t have many followers. I only keep it installed to quickly find out if Netflix or Xbox is down when my shit don’t work. I haven’t used it in months.
