• huginn@feddit.it
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    My understanding is that motorcycles (especially modern motorcycles) produce significantly less CO2 equiv than modern cars - in no small part due to their ability to not get caught in traffic.

    Most commuters are 1 person per vehicle.

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      That’s just not true though.

      Motorcycles do not have to meet the same stringent requirements as cars because they aren’t classified as cars.

      This holds true in most “western” nations.

      They’re allowed higher emissions and put out more emissions per person than cars do.

      You guys can downvote me all you want but 1 person in 1 car emits less emissions than 1 person on 1 motorcycle.

      This is NOT an argument for cars but an argument AGAINST a single user motorized transport.

      This doesn’t negate the argument against cars but it’s strange to see people arguing FOR another form of motorized transport rather than walkable cities OR mass public transportation.

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        1 person in 1 car emits less emissions than 1 person on 1 motorcycle.

        [citation needed]

        Outlandish claims are fine, but you need to either substantiate them or stop complaining that people don’t believe your obviously-false bullshit.

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        You do know that almost all modern on-road motorcycles are CARB-compliant, right? Oh, but what about those small motorcycles? https://www.transportpolicy.net/standard/us-motorcycles-emissions/ As of 2006, all Class I and II motorcycles must be compliant with few exceptions.

        I don’t know where you are getting your numbers for your claims. These are some significant assertions that, even prima facie, don’t make sense.

        1 person in 1 car emits less emissions than 1 person on 1 motorcycle

        Even from just a thermodynamics standpoint, this assertion not only feels wrong, but is wrong. Maybe a two-stroke motorcycle could out-emit a modern SOV.

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        Can you link those findings? I find this hard to believe since cars are so much heavier than motorcycles. Maybe a full van, is better emissions per capita? But with a single user for a car I am skeptical but open to being shown to be wrong