• xor@infosec.pub
    101·
    2 months ago

    only morbidly obese or disabled people should be allowed to drive personal vehicles in urban areas….

    • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      142·
      2 months ago

      If by “personal vehicles” you mean mobility scooters and wheelchairs, then sure!

      Nobody should actually need personal automobiles in a properly-designed city, though. Not even disabled people. The only kinds of automobile traffic that are actually necessary should be deliveries, tradespeople, and buses.

      • xor@infosec.pub
        111·
        2 months ago

        nah, some disabled people need a lot more than transportation… a lot of equipment, a place to nap… but still deserve to go to town and be part of it.
        (e.g. a good friend of mine has m.s. and has to sleep in her van periodically).
        but i did learn, a lot of the world is very inconvenient to navigate in a wheelchair….
        like, uneven sidewalks….
        but whatever, we can start with a lot more bike lanes….
        and not just a white stripe painted on the side of a road with a “bike lane” sign.

        • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
          84·
          2 months ago

          Okay, but when a properly-designed town looks like this…

          …it’s not as if they’d have anywhere to park their van anyway. The correct solution here is to have plentiful public seating for them to rest on and for them to pull their equipment along behind them in a cart or something.

          Your argument is as unreasonable as suggesting they should be allowed to drive through an indoor shopping mall, Blues Brothers-style.

          • krashmo@lemmy.world
            31·
            2 months ago

            16th Street in Denver is just that, one street. And it’s really only like that for about 8 blocks. It works fairly well to build in that way for a small area but replacing all of the downtown infrastructure is not really practical, much less the whole city.

            • MrMakabar@slrpnk.netEnglish
              1·
              2 months ago

              Amsterdam is about the same size as Denver and has a at least low car city center. Works pretty well.Venice down town might be one of the most beautiful in the world and is pretty much completly car free. It sort of works, besides the tourists that is.

          • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
            34·
            2 months ago

            in a cart or something

            in a cart or something? Wow. I love how you hate people who can’t ride bikes.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
    33·
    2 months ago

    I love how ‘bike lane’ is the first and last suggestion ever. I love how in my old town they tore up a commuter railbed to make an urban bike trail, knowing full well they were ripping up green transport for … bikes.

    Maybe sit down, kevin, and let’s get people out of cars before we jam them into your favourite hobby.

    • Soup@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 months ago

      Bike lanes aren’t just for cyclists, and actually it can pretty easily argued that a basically insignificant number of the users are hardcore cyclists. Where I live a bicycle is simply one of the best ways to get around and people will just use the great bikeshare program to get around.

      So yea, nothing to do with someone’s hobby, and most everyone who wants to see a bike lane also wants everything else. What we’re all mad about is that bike lanes are so fucking easy to do and yet you’ll never see a temper tantrum like when you ask for a road that’s way wider than it needs to be to have one installed.

    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
      21·
      2 months ago

      In my town the old railhouse is an isolated shelter on a concrete island flanked with 5-6 lane one way roads. Thanks Rails to Trails!