• Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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    15 minutes ago

    Really? Just make the exact same game as Skyrim with better graphics and a new plot, while making it less likely to have bugs and glitches and maybe fix the largest complaints about Skyrim.

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    3 hours ago

    What a cop-out.

    Bethesda didn’t have trouble making games when they cared about making games. Now, they care about making money. Yes, devs should get paid for their work. But design decisions based on anything other than making a good game poison the well.

    This is why small devs are absolutely killing it with indie games on PC at the moment. AAA titles fail over and over again, because they’re designed for C-suite pockets first and gamers second.

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    4 hours ago

    It’s not like they don’t know how to make a good game. They don’t have to reinvent the wheel. Take Skyrim, make a new land with new characters and new quests, make it 4 times as pretty, fix the biggest bugs. Maybe make the quests a smidge more complex. Boom.

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    4 hours ago

    I was a pretty hardcore Bethesda fan for years, long before Skyrim. But they have burned me too many times now for me to have any faith in ESVI.

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      I know I’m in the minority, but I fucking love Starfield.

      It’s a galactic scale zen garden when I need peace.

      It’s a shooter/space combat sim when I choose violence.

      There’s things that aren’t good about it, it needs so many more factions, followers, and NPC interaction points to fill the fish bowl that’s there, but there’s so much to love too, IMHO.

      In a time where MOST major studio games have turned to no effort live service dogshit, I think hating on flawed but grand games like Starfield as just more unsalvagable garbage is just an invitation to studios to keep churning out actual garbage like Suicide Squad since there’s no pleasing modern gamers so don’t bother trying, just lean entirely on an IPs nostalgia.

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    10 hours ago

    How many people who worked on Morrowind, Oblivion, and/or Skyrim are still working there? This is a question I feel does not get asked enough when it comes to beloved franchises. People talk about their favourite game developers and how they “sold out” or whatever. I don’t think I see enough recognition that sometimes the best people at a company just leave.

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      5 hours ago

      bethesda has one of the least amount of turnover for any gaming company. so you can check the credits for morrowind then check for skyrim then check for starfield and you will see a lot of familiar names

    • Ketram@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      9 hours ago

      The reality is that it’s been 20 years since many of those “best games ever”. 20 years is a huge chunk of your working life. It’s just not realistic to keep the same people that whole time, or even a percentage of them.

      People don’t want to think about the reality of it, they just want content to devour.

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    14 hours ago

    Honestly if they had just put a little more thought into the loot progression and made a couple systems more interesting it would have been a much better game.

    The randomized empty open world planets wasn’t great but they also did that in Daggerfall so I don’t think it was totally unprecedented and still had some value if there was a better incentive to explore (in my opinion better and more interesting loot would have kept me exploring).

    What pissed me off the most was the fact that when you built the armillary it literally showed up on the OUTSIDE of your spaceship and you couldn’t build it indoors in your settlements. What the fuck? You literally killed people for some of those artifacts. Why would you keep them outside for fucks sake?

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      The randomized empty open world planets wasn’t great but they also did that in Daggerfall so I don’t think it was totally unprecedented

      Well, in case of daggerfall you could actually move through the land to the next city/town without a single loading screen. And in theory you could move from one end of the land to the other end (but the game would likely crash due to procedural generation or memory issues before)

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    Maybe they shouldn’t use marketers. From what I see, marketers are the reason for unreal hype. Look at cyberpunk, marketers told poeple that it was going to be basically a real life simulator and then people were upset that it was only a really fun RPG. (Aside from the launch issues this was also a big thing at launch).

    All modern games hype is directly because of marketers.

    Here’s a novel thing. Just show us what the game is like. No stupid marketing lingo, no flashy graphics, just what the game is like. Give us the opening mission. There, pay me a marketing fee. No stupid high expectations, no lying about features that don’t actually exist, just telling the consumer honestly what they’re buying.

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      Look at cyberpunk, marketers told poeple that it was going to be basically a real life simulator and then people were upset that it was only a really fun RPG

      We can’t put all the blame on marketers. It is still to this day a wonky, janky, buggy and substandard RPG. There was no level of softening that would make Cyberpunk palatable enough to be entirely free of negative sentiment.

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      pay me a marketing fee

      Average pay is like 50-60k [per year] for a[n average of a] 40 hour week [job], less if you’re like social media coordinator or something. It’s not like it’s crazy money.

      And why hate on people that are usually artists, writers, creatives etc spending half their life using their talents in a bland corporate way to make money to pay the bills so they can spend 10% of their life actually creating art?

      Plus, everyone’s job is easy when you reduce it to simplistic terms

      I can be a back end developer: just organize the data and show it on my screen. Don’t show me a login page, don’t ask for my preferences, don’t give me help articles, just organize the data

      I can be a firefighter: just put out the fire, don’t ride around in a big truck, don’t slide down a pole just put out the fire.

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        8 hours ago

        50-60k for a week‽.

        That’s almost pretty much double the average monthly salary here.

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          a year to work a full time job I meant.

          edit: I looked it up, average - 50th percentile - is actually $79k per annum. Still not crazy money for a full time job.

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            7 hours ago

            Lol, I also messed up the currency conversion. Of course we don’t earn around 30k USD a month. That would be insane. We earn on average around 30-35k SEK a month which is much less.