Again, my point is that you could enjoy those things, not that you do.
Your point is that you are an unchanging static being and it’s in your DNA that you could never ever like sports, because you apparently know the future and all possibilities.
How does that sound stupid? It’s literally OPs point and goes to show how flexible and unfixed interests are.
Meanwhile other idiots in this thread are insisting that they were born as non baseball fans and that can never be changed by anything ever, despite the fact being that if they were born in a different context they may very well have been.
This is kind of, by-definition, wrong, not just unpopular.
For the simple reason that even though I only tried to learn manual once, I can drive any electric car without issue.
Hell even before that, some people could drive trucks or buses or motorcycles, but not all people with driver’s licenses could.
If we came up with a different word for driving other types of cars, then it would make sense. But we didn’t, so driving just refers to the broad concept of operating various types of motor vehicles, usually at relatively high speed, but not exclusively.
And that’s quite frankly because even without manually operating a clutch, driving is still a huge skillset that most people struggle to excel at.
A) sexuality is a spectrum, so yes I encourage people to experiment.
B) that being said there is a fundamental difference between getting enjoyment out of an cultural event / tradition, and your base sexual / reproductive urges. And the latter has a lot of evidence pointing to how unchanging it is over your life, the former does not.
There is nothing definitive about my life experience, beyond keeping an open mind that things can change. You on the other hand are definitively shutting off possible experiences, at this point given your level of outrage, presumably because of some past sports related trauma.
For all of those things I’ve never earnestly tried to enjoy them. Every time I earnestly get into why a fandom enjoys something I find something I like.
“we non-fans”
This opinion bothers you because you think of yourself as a non sports fan, and it challenges that part of your identity.
I can’t imagine going through life just going “I’m not into that and there’s no chance I ever will be”. People change and I’ve frequently found myself enjoying things I never used to and vice versa.
You’re putting yourself in a box by limiting your own possibilities.
It’s just more comforting to do that because then every time you don’t enjoy something you can blame it on the box, rather then work on changing it.
With all due respect, don’t post a message on a forum if you don’t want people to reply to it. That’s what soap boxes are for.
Look at the variety of different baseball fans, their backgrounds, temperaments, etc. You have analytical nerds, to muscle bound jocks, to k-pop loving dancers.
There is nothing inherent in your wiring that prevents you or anyone from enjoying baseball, it’s simply attitude and experience. If you met the love of your life and they were super into baseball, they would be able to get you into it because that’s a scenario where you would break down your own mental barriers and let yourself be open to learning and enjoying it. The same is true for virtually everything.
Lol at being downvoted by the indoor lemmings. This is 100% true, most people just don’t realize how close minded they are.
I first had this general realization with Rap music in university. I wasn’t into it, but I had a friend on my floor who I really liked who was, and he recommended GhostFace Killa’s Supreme Clientele to me. I listened to it and didn’t like it, but knew he did and respected his opinion so much that I thought, nah it’s got to be me that’s wrong here, and listened to it over and over and over again, until suddenly I started noticing little details and nuance and flare that I liked more then other rap songs…
Eventually I realized that the reason I hadn’t enjoying rap was because I didn’t get it. I had never listened to enough of it to understand it at a baseline level. It would be like playing Smash Bros without even understanding what a fighting game is, you can kind of enjoy it from a tourist standpoint, but there’s a lot more depth and interest when you get into it and understand how they’re intentionally playing with the meta, referencing other tropes trends, subverting expectations, etc. etc.
I then went years listening to almost exclusively rap music and since had that realization with a million different things, from other music genres, to sports, to hobbies, to professions, etc.
At a core level, like you said, if millions of people are into it, and I’m not, that’s a me problem, and I should work on my own understanding of the topic if I find it boring. There is nothing inherent about my personality or others personalities that make me unable to like the things they’re into, it’s almost always a lack of experience and a poor attitude that keeps you cut off from it.
The other realization this brings is that it’s just not worth making fun of people for being into stuff. The only person to make fun of for being into something that I’m not into is myself, because I’m the one missing out on enjoying an aspect of life that they’re not.
Lol I don’t have tattoos, but I can do this for literally everything you have ever liked or enjoyed.
This is one of those “if you think something that doesn’t effect you and brings others joy is stupid, you probably need therapy”.
That makes him Reagan not Hitler.
Yes, and at that point, both sources will be meaningless in the context of who the most hated president is.
They will also be meaningless because the same polls were not carried out during previous presidencies, so there is nothing to compare them to, nor was there the same information ecosystem.
At present he won’t go down as the most hated President of all time in the long run, and if Trump goes down as the most hated president, during his time, it will only be because social media didn’t exist during Andrew Jackson’s time.
or steal billions.
Yes, billions of dollars was funneled from the US government, to defense contractors like Haliburton, explicitly to prop up the corporations of Bush and his friends like Cheney.
He is responsible for over a million US exes during COVID. over 1.2% of Americans did not survive his first administration and died directly due to his ego.
I mean fair point, but his COVID policy was also a direct reflection of the will of a huge amount of the American public. Fox News has more deaths in their hands because of COVID then Trump does if you want to be honest about the origin of the anti-vax attitude. It certainly didn’t start with Trump, though he was in a position to influence change and he didn’t.
A historian 30 years from now will see them about the same.
Honestly at this point this is the most rationale take I’ve seen in this thread.
I think he’ll be somewhere between Nixon and Gorbachev, like you said, seen as a scumbag that no one will defend, and someone who made the world worse by breaking longstanding traditions and norms that won’t get unbroken, but unlike Nixon and more like Gorbachev I think he’ll be seen as someone who inadvertently caused American power and standing in the world to crumble.
So this point will become relevant if the hypothetical scenario you imagine in your head comes true? Great argument.
Yeah, that’s why historians examine things through hindsight and evidence not flash polls on CNN designed to get headlines.
The point is that a version of you born and raised in different circumstances could like it, so your insistence that it’s impossible for you to find something in sports entertaining seems false and like a limit you have imposed on yourself, not an absolute unchanging truth.