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    I’ve never understood the furry hate. People treat it as a kink akin to someone being into taking a shit on your stomach. Except somehow worse.

    It’s not my thing, but I’ve known people who are into it and they’ve all been nice people. I hung out with a bunch of them one of the times I was working at a con and they were fun people to hang around when they were out of their fursuits. And yeah, I didn’t quite know how to react to them when they were in the fursuit, but I just stayed friendly. That seemed to be fine with them.

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      Furries are odd fellows, but I would never say anything against them for fear of all IT infrastructure spontaneously trying to kill for the rest of my life because it’s just odd, not harmful. De gustibus non disputandum est.

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        Right. They’re just into something weird. No big deal, lots of us are into weird things. The weird stuff I’m into doesn’t involve spending lots of money or wearing a costume that must be very hot after a short period of time, but if that’s what does it for you, cool. I’ll be over here watching hours of old public domain movies and industrial films.

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          I remember a story about the US Military taking notes for the cooling solution of a certain fursuit.

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      One of the most consistent themes with furries I have noticed is unapologetic sex positivity.

      That burns a lot of folks who insist sex is shameful and something to apologize for.

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        There’s a loud subculture of furries who insist sex is shameful and something to apologize for.

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          Huh… I’ve been here a smidge under 20 years, and I’ve never met a fur who shares that sentiment. Awkward and quiet about it, sure, but nobody who is like “bad grrrr gross grrrr”. Almost exclusively in my circles it’s on the range of “I don’t mind at all, be weird with me” to (where I sit) “literally get freaky with me whenever and however, here are my kinks on f-list with all my sona details, also here is my 4K webcam and we can become content creators if you want too” levels of casual/open/positivity.

          ‘we are here for a good time, not a long time’. So, literally, fuck it. Do what/who makes you feel good.

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        It certainly feels that way sometimes. “I can’t say the other F-word, so I’ll call you a furry.”

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          Not quite, I mean more in the way any pejorative they’d use against a furry, that person thinks about queer people.

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        phobia of neurodivergent people as well, I think. A lot of the things people find weird and offputting are just like… autism or something.

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          I’m autistic and an LGBT ally and I still find furries off-putting. I try not to judge, but in general I treat them like street proselytizers and the mentally unwell homeless: don’t make eye contact and keep out of smelling range.

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            I’m gonna copy another comment I made on this post since it’s the best thing I think I can say about it. But just know I once felt as you do and probably still would if my sister wasn’t a furry.

            I think the kink and fursuit parts are what most people understand about furries because that’s the most signal boosted and bizarre parts about it. However, furries often have other things that really attach them to it, and the kink is a further expression of that.

            For a lot of people, neurodivergence is a core feature. I struggle with speech a lot. I’m learning ASL but few people speak it. The flexibility to communicate in howls, barks and yips on occasion is extremely helpful. The furry community is full of people who just get this and will treat me very normally when I’m nonverbal. The scared kid in me still expects to be hit for disobedience, so it’s incredibly healing.

            Some folks who like fursuits like them because they present a barrier and literal mask that helps them feel safe and protected from bad sensory experiences in public. Some attach themselves into a fursona character and find a way to express parts of themselves they couldn’t elsewhere. My sister describes her fursona as a manifestation of her inner child unburdened by abuse, and made the character female years before she worked out she was trans.

            When you consider how much kink and trauma go hand in hand, how much furries lean on their identity as a way to feel safe engaging with others, and how much genuine joy people find in their fursona, the kink makes a whole lot more sense. It’s less about being attracted to “rejected Disney mascots” specifically as it is about the comfort and safety a rejected Disney mascot persona can bring to people who need it. For as much as it’s helpful in the outside world, it would in fact be weirder for none of that to come into the bedroom too.

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            an LGBT ally

            That’s not how that works; someone can only be described as an ally while performing allyship.

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      It might be different for others but I’ve been around furries, have had furry friends, and it still on some deep level that I can’t control makes me a bit uncomfortable. Like I do not judge, and I fully support consenting adults doing whatever they want, but if someone in a fur suit sat next to me on a train, I would be a tad bit uneasy. For me, I think it’s the sexualizing animals that gets me. I’m not saying furries do anything bad to real animals, just that the way I view animals is something incompatible with any form of sexualization.

      That being said, I fully support furries doing whatever they want as long as it isn’t forced on me. All the furry friends I’ve had over the years have been wonderful and creative people, and have never made me feel uncomfortable.

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      Also, being a “furry” is remarkably easy. Are you a fan of anthropomorphic animals? Congrats, you’re a furry. It doesn’t require you to wear a fursuit or anything else. That means that if you’re in the fandom of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Sonic the Hedgehog, etc. You. Are. A. Furry.

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      For me at least, I’m uncomfy with like, how close furry’s rejected Disney mascot kink is to a beastiality kink. Not to say they’re even that close! I’m surely oversensitive here! But I think that’s where my overall lack of pure acceptance comes from.

      It’s goofy to me that the people out here like “fuck yeah, that fox with anime eyes is sexy.”

      I try not to be a hater, but I have trouble with this scene so I let it be. “Consenting adults; none of my business.”

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        I think the kink and fursuit parts are what most people understand about furries because that’s the most signal boosted and bizarre parts about it. However, furries often have other things that really attach them to it, and the kink is a further expression of that.

        For a lot of people, neurodivergence is a core feature. I struggle with speech a lot. I’m learning ASL but few people speak it. The flexibility to communicate in howls, barks and yips on occasion is extremely helpful. The furry community is full of people who just get this and will treat me very normally when I’m nonverbal. The scared kid in me still expects to be hit for disobedience, so it’s incredibly healing.

        Some folks who like fursuits like them because they present a barrier and literal mask that helps them feel safe and protected from bad sensory experiences in public. Some attach themselves into a fursona character and find a way to express parts of themselves they couldn’t elsewhere. My sister describes her fursona as a manifestation of her inner child unburdened by abuse, and made the character female years before she worked out she was trans.

        When you consider how much kink and trauma go hand in hand, how much furries lean on their identity as a way to feel safe engaging with others, and how much genuine joy people find in their fursona, the kink makes a whole lot more sense. It’s less about being attracted to “rejected Disney mascots” specifically as it is about the comfort and safety a rejected Disney mascot persona can bring to people who need it. For as much as it’s helpful in the outside world, it would in fact be weirder for none of that to come into the bedroom too.

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        It’s okay to not understand something someone else is super into. The issue comes when you judge them to be lesser than you for it. And when you use them as an object of derision.

        There are plenty of people out there who will never understand homosexuality. Even find it disgusting. And if they just kept their mouths shut about it and treated gay people the same as they did anyone else, the world would be a better place.