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anyone dunking on the article, this is pretty far away from a how-to-lilst; it’s more of a “think about these things if you haven’t up until now” and as such a net positive. wrong community for it, though.
I doubt somebody running from a government is taking their tips from wired.com
I read through the whole list, and monero was the only decent privacy recomendation I could find. Everything else was US-hosted. A lot of it was just recommendations from Apple and Google on “privacy” services they offer.
No mention of syncthing, matrix, xmpp, even with sections dedicated to those categories.
You’re right, ha, I’m totally not… they, I mean they are totally not! You got it guy! Everyone listen to this guy! I’d go as far as to say anyone reading this article is innocent of ALL crimes!
People commenting however…
Too bad private email access is essentially dead. Any service not requiring another email or phone number to sign up gets quickly shut down. A casualty in the war on whistleblowers.
email is never private, if its that sensitive it just shouldn’t go on the internet
Exactly; email is digital post cards and always has been.
Of course, that means I can encrypt a message and use someone else’s email account to send it :)
You can sign up for Proton mail without providing email or phone number, as far as I recall.
Nope. Try doing it through a Tor node.
tor isn’t email or phone
No shit, Sherlock.
you still can, it was a bug in past that they fixed long ago
it’s not a bug and it’s still not possible, it’s for tracking who created the account of course.
Try it now. Load up a tor tab in the Brave browser, and try signing up for an email without providing any info.
yes I just did, not brave but tor browser and I was able to create account
I just loaded up a Linux vm with Brave, and tried to sign up in a tor window. It requires a verification email to sign up.
Maybe you’re using a browser or OS that it’s tracking.
yeah I’m using tor browser, also don’t forget you can get fingerprinted even on tor
Proton requires email?
Not in my experience
Yes, tho it days it dosent store it, ill leave it up to you what you do whit that.
They do store it and have provided it to authorities in the past. In their defense, modern laws require you to hand over any data you have or get shut down. But they already knew that, yet choose to ask for it anyways knowing that they have to give it away if asked to.
i guess corpos gonna corpo folks… even the “good” ones
i did not realize you needed anything to create rando emails. i know google started that shit 5 years ago tho
I don’t think you are required to provide a secondary email, but you get less features without it.
i see… that is a dark pattern in of itself, why does proton need this info and why are they willing to incentiveze users sharing it.
How is offering users the option to set a backup/recovery email a dark pattern?
As far as I understand it, this is only recovery emails and I think it explicitly has some sort of warning about this when setting it. This is different than the email prompt on sign up.
I wouldn’t trust them not to store the initial one as well tbh. Nothing technically stops that and it’s in their interests.
I didn’t even know it asked for an email for sign up. I just remember the recovery email.
A lot of practical steps, which is nice to see in an article like this.
That iphone drama might actually lead to proper interest from normie core?
I’m glad they mentioned Monero in the article, but sad that they mentioned it alongside Zcash since Zcash is not private by default and not many people opt into the privacy and Zcash has shown willingness to be bad to their users by helping exchanges. Primarily because they are run by the Electric Coin Company, which is registered in the United States, and therefore they have to obey the laws of the United States. So, Zcash is not a good option.
I also have not seen Zcash accepted as payment nowhere nearly as frequently as Monero.
Same
Shielded addresses & transactions are private using zero-knowledge proofs like Monero. You can also have transparent addresses & transactions like how Bitcoin operates on Zcash as well which is true. But there isn’t a default, some wallets autoshield by default making your comment misinformation.
Some wallets shielding their transactions by default is still not nearly as strong as everything being shielded by default at the protocol level, but they couldn’t have that because then they would not be on exchanges.
It does add a level of convenience for the type of transaction you might want to actually be tracked all being on the same currency. Most don’t even offer the option. Zcash can do the thing—it’s just not the only way.
Monero has view keys for exactly this reason, so that if you need to make a transaction public for like an audit or something, you can do so. But on the protocol level, absolutely everything is always private.
That’s good too. Not a Monero hater or a Zcash fanboy—I just think we need to be honest about the capabilities even if the methods of getting there are different.
