Yes, same for lemmy.world. If you want to post something niche and find a dead Lemmy.world community maybe consider first seeing if there’s one elsewhere to revive or even make yourself (assuming you’re registered somewhere else of course).
Yeah, I have no problem with Lemmy.world (I mean, my main is on here), but spreading comms amongst at least a few instances is better for the overall health of the Fediverse.
Helpful links:
Lemmyverse is a good place for finding communities your instance might not know about
Lemmy Federate is good for seeding communities to other instances.
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See nobody says this kinda thing about sh.
what does SH mean in this context?
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The more power (engagement) any particular community’s moderators get, the heavier-handed they get.
.world is full of powermods lording over their little kingdoms too.
Yeah… your modlog history paints a different picture. Apparently, you seem to think the rules of lemmy don’t apply to you.
Oh please half of Lemmy has had issues with FS or Jordan.
They’re like 90% of !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
And there are no “Rules of Lemmy”, every instance has its own rules.
Dude… your comments are public. The removed comments are clear rule violations. I’m thinking either you seriously don’t think they apply to you, or you never read them.
And just because something is in YPTB, it isn’t guaranteed to be correctly attributed. Note how many people in the comments disagree.
Cool.
And just because you think something doesn’t count, doesn’t matter when everyone else does. And most of the comments agree too.
Lemmy’s search is dogshit… It’s my number one problem with this place. And this is the ONLY place I use these days.
Oh boy, another post of .world furiously masturbating over the evils of .ml
Considering most .world users are (former) Reddit users, it makes sense they’d get easily spooked by *insert thunder noises and ghost sounds:
MARXISM! UuUuHh!!
That platform has turned quite to the right with their moderation and acceptance
why say this on .world?
Nobody is spooked by anything. Many (like me) have the opinion that Marxism is a trash ideology and so shit on the place where its ideas are traded the most as they’re trading trash opinions.
Nobody is spooked by anything.
This is just purely and demonstrably false. Not only it is wrong from a historical point of view, but it also ignores current political conversations in which “Leftists/Communists” are used as a scare tactic.
Many (like me) have the opinion that Marxism is a trash ideology
I see. What specific criticisms do you have for Marxism then?
Not only it is wrong from a historical point of view, but it also ignores current political conversations in which “Leftists/Communists” are used as a scare tactic.
Fair enough, i guess i also “fear” communism in a sense and believe that humanity must work to prevent ourselves from reaching such a state (at least the sort that is typical of it) but i don’t think that’s where much of the criticism on Lemmy stems from
I have a lot of criticisms, but I don’t currently have the energy for a long debate. However, my main criticism is that Marxism is unnecessary as many good things have been achieved and can be achieved under a social democracy.
There’s also the point on how Marxism is practically unachievable without collectivisation, which allows for the possibility of tyranny. Soft totalitarianism as i like to call it. It has gone wrong in the past and will probably continually do so.
I have a lot of criticisms, but I don’t currently have the energy for a long debate.
Classic.
I genuinely don’t. I have engaged in multiple debates about this stuff in the past though. I also outlined a couple of my criticisms, so if you would like to address those instead of trying to be snarky, that would be welcome
I’ll just point out you called Marxism a trash ideology and then subsequently called it unnecessary because of an ideology that is almost inherently rooted in Marxism.
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How about minding your business
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No need to insult me bro
The .world admins are puppets of the Dutch government and the .ml admins are puppets of the Chinese government
Okay, so abiding by the law where your servers are hosted is being a Puppet.
Go stir up some drama in 196. There at least you know what you are doing.
.world Admins and mods don’t follow the Dutch law. They clearly follow there personal biases and the I think that it’s okay if they where honest.
Instead of saying we don’t like you talking about jury nullification. They say it isn’t allowed by law. Jury’s are not even a thing in the Netherlands. They say they follow the law, but they just follow a ideology and are lying about it.
.ml admins and mods clearly have a personal bias and are honest about it. You can think it’s a shit take. But you know where they stand for. Like it or not.
E: mods of communities don’t always follow there admins line of course. And there are shit mods on both instance
I feel like an old man asking this, but what is the theme of 196?
Go stir up some drama in 196.
Did you forget which post you’re commenting in?
Here’s a translation of the relevant Dutch law against violent speech:
Article 137d: “He who publicly, orally, in writing or graphically, incites hatred against, discrimination of or violent action against person or belongings of people because of their race, their religion or their life philosophy, their gender, their heterosexual or homosexual orientation or their physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by imprisonment of no more than a year or a monetary penalty of the third category.”
Is being a CEO a religion now?
(Fun fact technically irrelevant to our discussion: being biphobic or aphobic is allowed in the Netherlands)
Your last point all depends whether we take the spirit of the law or the letter of the law… but perhaps there could be a non-Dutch higher court to decide any contentious points?
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Is Drag your alt?
Ah yes the supply side jesus freedom ranking brought to you by citibank
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Okay and I don’t care about your uninformed opinion and yet here you are, wasting my time. 🥸
But there is an easy fix for that.
oh wow, not sure what was said but thankfully I’m lazy and hadn’t replied to that person in another post I still had up (science post I was gonna answer their incredulous questions in case they just didn’t understand but I see now it’s just a troll account). Looks like they got site banned but it’s unfortunately the shitty way where you can’t see anything they did to know what happened.
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Likewise the same with .world. Aim for a smaller instances community if you can contribute.
Worse yet, they also naively censor the r-word so if an .ml user types r*tardant it comes out as removedant
Ah yes, the classic Scunthorpe Problem
I believe you mean clbuttic
Also, it disregards comment language
That’s shitty. It effectively removes the ability to communicate in anything but English.
E.g. some frequently used words that are non-slurs: fag (nordics, meaning class/course), retard (french train stations will display this when trains are delayed). Living in Norway, I have frequently been frustrated when MMOs wouldn’t let me talk to friends in my native language without censoring or even handing out bans.
… Or slut, which means end.
The Spanish name Enrique can be diminutised to “Kike” (key-kay) but PlayStation network banned accounts with that name as the word in English is slur against Jews.
Exactly, I’ve even tested with setting my comment to French, exclusively speaking French within, and it’s still filtered.
And that pissed off a couple people who just couldn’t believe my motivation was anything other than desire to say slurs.
THEY WON’T LET ME SAY MY GODDAMNED SLURS FUCKING GODDAMNIT
I’M A CERTIFIED RULES LAWYER I SHOULD GET TO SAY MY FUCKING SLURS
The weekly .world feud post right on time.
Edit: for someone who doesn’t like .ml so much, why do you browse it enough to repost content from it? No worries comrade, they are our memes. Share away.
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You can’t see your own comments in this thread? How interesting.
I see the point you are trying to make, but have you considered the criminal US actions in Syria and how the US has evil imperial powers proxy wars and love nazis and make wars happen?
In conclusion: Whatever it is that you said, US bad, therefore you wrong.
I concede that despite not being alive when it was going on, I am just as guilty as everyone in the CIA that rigged elections and staged coups in South America. Everything I’ve come to know and understand in this lifetime is tainted by imperialism and is therefore invalid.
Y’all know you can post to more than one place, right?
OP makes these posts on around a monthly basis, they have a pattern of posting these instance-drama related posts fairly regularly.
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Lol they banned discussion of jury nullification despite the fact that they have no reason to so their constant complaining about ml is moot
Hmm, no. I have many posts and comments regarding jury nullification and Luigi in general even in .world communities and not a single has been removed. .world is based on Denmark iirc and per Denmark law, it’s illegal to discuss jury nullification in regards to future crime, but not crime already committed
So in Denmark, “Let’s do [crime] and then we can get people on our side to do jury nullification” is illegal, but “Person did [crime] but I think their actions were justified, so let’s do jury nullification” is not.
Which is why their TOS prohibits all discussion relating to it lol
No other instances need to make feud posts about .world because the natural behavior of the mods and users does a good enough job to drive people out.
No marketing campaign needed.
There’s always someone on .world with an axe to grind lmao
It’s truly the most reddit of instances. And yet, here I am.
I started on .world to. You can be free one day. I believe in you.
You don’t get more free in authoritarian instances like .ml
Yes you do
Oh the irony.
The instance tribalism is ironic; most of the people complaining about .ml have also been banned from other communities for similar behavior (racism, misogyny, etc).
Not when one side considers using the phrases: dicksucking, dick riding or sissy to be the misogyny
I think the first two as commonly used are more homophobic, the latter more misogynist
Good thing your opinion isn’t consensus then
There’s still plenty of instances run by people willing to tolerate misogyny, racism and transphobia in the name of extreme centrism and defending capitalism.
I actually laughed out loud reading this in the modlog “triggered far left liberals” OK Ben Shapiro
If you left your ultra-white, ultra-left, and ultra-woke political echo chambers you’d learn that the terms dick-sucking and dick-riding comes from AAVE and is used frequently by the Black-American community. AAVE slang tends to mock the actions described in the insults and not those performing them.
I know all this because i actually interact with humans in the real world. I don’t sit at my desk all day, arguing about fuck all on the internet while extending my cultural and moral values to individuals on the internet like Americans who don’t know that words like “cunt” and “f*ggot” have meanings not tied to negative connotations outside the US do. This nuance is typically lost on the left and is why i identify as centrist nowadays.
Oh, it’s the regularly scheduled sabre-rattling post.
He has a little star in his calendar for every month.
Yep, they even get a bunch of their posts from Lemmy.ml communities and cross post them to non-Lemmy.ml communities. That’s fine, but this is just a huge dedication to inter-instance drama.
There’s nothing wrong with .ml communities stop the stupid infighting, splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.
“Nothing wrong” lol. Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears. I’ve practically been radicalized against visiting tankie spaces and it’s because of their lies and responses to myself and others…
Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears.
Editors note: the person above is speaking about things happening in countries they have never visited, and cannot speak the language of, as reported in press based in geopolitical enemies of those countries.
Are you pretending to be a mod, or was that a bad joke?
Anyway, this isn’t an ideology disagreement and I’m not talking about what goes on in other countries/languages, it’s an anecdote. I’m telling you what I experienced.
It wasn’t a joke; it was calling you out for bullshit. And you’re not sharing an anecdote of what happened to you. You’re vague posting and expecting people to nod along without so much as a broad categorization of what you’re talking about, let alone details.
In all likelihood you’re whining about something in which you were clearly in the wrong.
Lol, I love when people tell me my experiences aren’t true and didn’t happen. It proves all you care about is amplifying fascist disinformation and authoritarians. It’s no wonder people want to block you…
So you’re from China and can speak Chinese I assume is what you’re trying to say?
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Take a look at the modlogs from .ml admins and moderators. Their rule 1 violation is a catch-all for anything that hurts their feelings. They remove shit that clearly break no rules all the time.
Don’t believe me? Go to any .ml community and respectfully disagree with anything positivity said on the topic of Russia or china. See what happens.
It’s almost as if they’re not smart enough to know that the modlogs are public or something.
I swear I need to make a log or something at this point for when this inevitably gets brought up so I can just paste links. I frequent any community and respectfully disagree all the time. I have one moderation from when I first started and didn’t “respectfully” comment (making pooh jokes, I wasn’t trying to engage seriously in a discussion and back the mod action).
Let’s make this easy, show me one example of what you’re talking about so my mind can be changed.
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ROFL! The .ml rage is clearly on full display here.
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You’re clearly upset. Maybe it’s best to let this rest.
Having a tankie instance as prominent as .ml is already hurting the Fediverse. It’s not a few bad Apple communities, it’s literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
The beauty of the fediverse is that people can block and see whatever they want. If you don’t like what you see, that’s a you problem not .ml’s
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Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
Gee, I wonder what your disagreement is
it’s literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials
Dramatic 🙄
Fine, can we concede that while they’re allowing other topics to flourish on their instance there are also unwritten rules that lead to confused banned users?
Can you elaborate about unwritten rules? Most of the bans I’ve seen has been for pretty clear rules violations, there’s some stuff which might fly on reddit (like xenophobia, sexism, racism, transphobia), that will catch a ban here. Having rules against bigotry actually getting enforced is probably a confusing occurrence for some redditors. Even people behaving hostile will generally only catch a temp ban to cool down, permanent bans are more for people who are being bigoted.
I have had plenty of issues with at least one of the admins, despite that I have yet to be censored for saying as much. The red-baiting disguised as legitimate concerns rubs me the wrong way though.
Check the modlogs. .ml uses rule 1 as a catch all for whatever is said that hurts their feelings.
Almost daily there are removals and bans that don’t break rules.
weird, looks like you got banned for the same thing on lemmy.world, (hostility, repeatedly calling people “kids” in a derogatory way, and trivializing the ongoing genocide), but only had a post removed for similar behavior on .ml.
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got any better examples?
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splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.
No one’s saying defederate.
I am, but I already am.
So far I have been censored on .world but not on .ml
I don’t know why ml is so hated
.world is basically Reddit. They want Lemmy to be Reddit, and censor Lemmy as if it is Reddit.
If you make a negative post about .world it will get removed by their mods but they never apply their rule to .ml
Make a negative comment about China on ml I dare ya.
This this is on hexbear via ml, here’s a whole comment thread complaining about neoliberal brainworms re: welfare in China and a bunch of people talking about how disappointing the fiscal conservatism is, one person pointing out that this type of wealth inequality is ultimately the result of government policy.
And this is exactly why .ml is so hated. That comment is pure .ml propaganda.
I have seen tons more .ml posts where mods go rampage mode and remove anything criticizing Communism, Russia, China, authoritarian regimes, their genocides, .ml itself, their mods, hate on US or any western nation, brigading …
.ml stands for Marxist Leninist, and they make sure you know it.
You rarely see negative posts about .world because they get removed.
Remember the MBFC debacle?
Also we spend so little time making posts complaining about .world, meanwhile .worlders are waging a jihad against .ml
Some Lemmy instances are generally hostile to Marxists, who are more concentrated on Lemmy.ml.
Lemmy.ml and hexbear are not marxist. They are fascists cosplaying as soviet communists. Many people don’t make that distinction though.
probably because that distinction is unfounded.
Believe it or not, there’s nothing saying a communist country needs to be a one party dictatorship. It would be perfectly achievable though democracy if the majority of the population actually wanted to take collective responsibility for the country and wanted people to be treated fairly. The reason communist dictatorships fail is because they are dictatorships, not because they are communist.
Marx had very little to say about the governing structure of communist governments, but did actually describe socialism as a ‘dictatorship of the proletariat’.
What you’re taking issue with is how marxism was later applied by various political projects, but they all still fall under the umbrella term of Marxism.
Put another way: all Marxist-lenninists are Marxist but not all Marxists are Marxist-lenninists
The admins and mods of .ml are the biggest Tankies of Lemmy, they refuse to admit that China is an authoritarian dictatorship that has committed recent genocide and constantly lick Putins boot saying things like Russia was justified in invading Ukraine unprovoked
!meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works though you’ll need to view through another instance because .ml blocks this community specifically
Probably should be noted those communities are filled with the brigading efforts of like two chronically obsessed people who use alternate accounts to stir up shit or screenshot posts they often write themselves.
I don’t care for the moderation policies of .ml but I don’t see what shitposting about it all the time without the context that they will ban you for “pro capitalist” posts does other than split the fediverse and make users who don’t even know what your problem is act defensive
The “average .ml poster”/“average .world poster” discourse is worn out.
Better .ml than .world, honestly
