• TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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    I don’t care for the moderation policies of .ml but I don’t see what shitposting about it all the time without the context that they will ban you for “pro capitalist” posts does other than split the fediverse and make users who don’t even know what your problem is act defensive

    The “average .ml poster”/“average .world poster” discourse is worn out.

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      OP makes these posts on around a monthly basis, they have a pattern of posting these instance-drama related posts fairly regularly.

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      The admins and mods of .ml are the biggest Tankies of Lemmy, they refuse to admit that China is an authoritarian dictatorship that has committed recent genocide and constantly lick Putins boot saying things like Russia was justified in invading Ukraine unprovoked

      !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works though you’ll need to view through another instance because .ml blocks this community specifically

      Or !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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        Probably should be noted those communities are filled with the brigading efforts of like two chronically obsessed people who use alternate accounts to stir up shit or screenshot posts they often write themselves.

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      .world is basically Reddit. They want Lemmy to be Reddit, and censor Lemmy as if it is Reddit.

      If you make a negative post about .world it will get removed by their mods but they never apply their rule to .ml

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          This this is on hexbear via ml, here’s a whole comment thread complaining about neoliberal brainworms re: welfare in China and a bunch of people talking about how disappointing the fiscal conservatism is, one person pointing out that this type of wealth inequality is ultimately the result of government policy.

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        And this is exactly why .ml is so hated. That comment is pure .ml propaganda.

        I have seen tons more .ml posts where mods go rampage mode and remove anything criticizing Communism, Russia, China, authoritarian regimes, their genocides, .ml itself, their mods, hate on US or any western nation, brigading …

        .ml stands for Marxist Leninist, and they make sure you know it.

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            Believe it or not, there’s nothing saying a communist country needs to be a one party dictatorship. It would be perfectly achievable though democracy if the majority of the population actually wanted to take collective responsibility for the country and wanted people to be treated fairly. The reason communist dictatorships fail is because they are dictatorships, not because they are communist.

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              Marx had very little to say about the governing structure of communist governments, but did actually describe socialism as a ‘dictatorship of the proletariat’.

              What you’re taking issue with is how marxism was later applied by various political projects, but they all still fall under the umbrella term of Marxism.

              Put another way: all Marxist-lenninists are Marxist but not all Marxists are Marxist-lenninists

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    The weekly .world feud post right on time.

    Edit: for someone who doesn’t like .ml so much, why do you browse it enough to repost content from it? No worries comrade, they are our memes. Share away.

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    Likewise the same with .world. Aim for a smaller instances community if you can contribute.

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    Oh boy, another post of .world furiously masturbating over the evils of .ml

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      Considering most .world users are (former) Reddit users, it makes sense they’d get easily spooked by *insert thunder noises and ghost sounds:

      MARXISM! UuUuHh!!

      That platform has turned quite to the right with their moderation and acceptance

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        Nobody is spooked by anything. Many (like me) have the opinion that Marxism is a trash ideology and so shit on the place where its ideas are traded the most as they’re trading trash opinions.

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          Nobody is spooked by anything.

          This is just purely and demonstrably false. Not only it is wrong from a historical point of view, but it also ignores current political conversations in which “Leftists/Communists” are used as a scare tactic.

          Many (like me) have the opinion that Marxism is a trash ideology

          I see. What specific criticisms do you have for Marxism then?

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            Not only it is wrong from a historical point of view, but it also ignores current political conversations in which “Leftists/Communists” are used as a scare tactic.

            Fair enough, i guess i also “fear” communism in a sense and believe that humanity must work to prevent ourselves from reaching such a state (at least the sort that is typical of it) but i don’t think that’s where much of the criticism on Lemmy stems from

            I have a lot of criticisms, but I don’t currently have the energy for a long debate. However, my main criticism is that Marxism is unnecessary as many good things have been achieved and can be achieved under a social democracy.

            There’s also the point on how Marxism is practically unachievable without collectivisation, which allows for the possibility of tyranny. Soft totalitarianism as i like to call it. It has gone wrong in the past and will probably continually do so.

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                I genuinely don’t. I have engaged in multiple debates about this stuff in the past though. I also outlined a couple of my criticisms, so if you would like to address those instead of trying to be snarky, that would be welcome

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                  I’ll just point out you called Marxism a trash ideology and then subsequently called it unnecessary because of an ideology that is almost inherently rooted in Marxism.

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      The .world admins are puppets of the Dutch government and the .ml admins are puppets of the Chinese government

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        Okay, so abiding by the law where your servers are hosted is being a Puppet.

        Go stir up some drama in 196. There at least you know what you are doing.

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          .world Admins and mods don’t follow the Dutch law. They clearly follow there personal biases and the I think that it’s okay if they where honest.

          Instead of saying we don’t like you talking about jury nullification. They say it isn’t allowed by law. Jury’s are not even a thing in the Netherlands. They say they follow the law, but they just follow a ideology and are lying about it.

          .ml admins and mods clearly have a personal bias and are honest about it. You can think it’s a shit take. But you know where they stand for. Like it or not.

          E: mods of communities don’t always follow there admins line of course. And there are shit mods on both instance

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          Here’s a translation of the relevant Dutch law against violent speech:

          Article 137d: “He who publicly, orally, in writing or graphically, incites hatred against, discrimination of or violent action against person or belongings of people because of their race, their religion or their life philosophy, their gender, their heterosexual or homosexual orientation or their physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by imprisonment of no more than a year or a monetary penalty of the third category.”

          Is being a CEO a religion now?

          (Fun fact technically irrelevant to our discussion: being biphobic or aphobic is allowed in the Netherlands)

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            Your last point all depends whether we take the spirit of the law or the letter of the law… but perhaps there could be a non-Dutch higher court to decide any contentious points?

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    Yes, same for lemmy.world. If you want to post something niche and find a dead Lemmy.world community maybe consider first seeing if there’s one elsewhere to revive or even make yourself (assuming you’re registered somewhere else of course).

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      Yeah, I have no problem with Lemmy.world (I mean, my main is on here), but spreading comms amongst at least a few instances is better for the overall health of the Fediverse.

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        See nobody says this kinda thing about sh.

        More in line with your comment though I wish there was a way to specifically merge a few comms into a single feed just for viewing purposes. So if you wanted to you could merge two c/memes feeds from different instances. You’d either have to take the post button away from that view or make it prompt you to select one of them from a list though.

        Would also be cool to be able to export / share merger lists so if you trust someone’s opinion on which subs from a topic are worth following or go well together or even just want to migrate your own list you can do that too.

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            Yeah… your modlog history paints a different picture. Apparently, you seem to think the rules of lemmy don’t apply to you.

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                Dude… your comments are public. The removed comments are clear rule violations. I’m thinking either you seriously don’t think they apply to you, or you never read them.

                And just because something is in YPTB, it isn’t guaranteed to be correctly attributed. Note how many people in the comments disagree.

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                  Cool.

                  And just because you think something doesn’t count, doesn’t matter when everyone else does. And most of the comments agree too.

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      Lemmy’s search is dogshit… It’s my number one problem with this place. And this is the ONLY place I use these days.

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    Worse yet, they also naively censor the r-word so if an .ml user types r*tardant it comes out as removedant

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      THEY WON’T LET ME SAY MY GODDAMNED SLURS FUCKING GODDAMNIT

      I’M A CERTIFIED RULES LAWYER I SHOULD GET TO SAY MY FUCKING SLURS

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        That’s shitty. It effectively removes the ability to communicate in anything but English.

        E.g. some frequently used words that are non-slurs: fag (nordics, meaning class/course), retard (french train stations will display this when trains are delayed). Living in Norway, I have frequently been frustrated when MMOs wouldn’t let me talk to friends in my native language without censoring or even handing out bans.

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          The Spanish name Enrique can be diminutised to “Kike” (key-kay) but PlayStation network banned accounts with that name as the word in English is slur against Jews.

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          Exactly, I’ve even tested with setting my comment to French, exclusively speaking French within, and it’s still filtered.

          And that pissed off a couple people who just couldn’t believe my motivation was anything other than desire to say slurs.

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    I see the point you are trying to make, but have you considered the criminal US actions in Syria and how the US has evil imperial powers proxy wars and love nazis and make wars happen?

    In conclusion: Whatever it is that you said, US bad, therefore you wrong.

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      I concede that despite not being alive when it was going on, I am just as guilty as everyone in the CIA that rigged elections and staged coups in South America. Everything I’ve come to know and understand in this lifetime is tainted by imperialism and is therefore invalid.

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        The instance tribalism is ironic; most of the people complaining about .ml have also been banned from other communities for similar behavior (racism, misogyny, etc).

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                There’s still plenty of instances run by people willing to tolerate misogyny, racism and transphobia in the name of extreme centrism and defending capitalism.

                I actually laughed out loud reading this in the modlog “triggered far left liberals” OK Ben Shapiro

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                  If you left your ultra-white, ultra-left, and ultra-woke political echo chambers you’d learn that the terms dick-sucking and dick-riding comes from AAVE and is used frequently by the Black-American community. AAVE slang tends to mock the actions described in the insults and not those performing them.

                  I know all this because i actually interact with humans in the real world. I don’t sit at my desk all day, arguing about fuck all on the internet while extending my cultural and moral values to individuals on the internet like Americans who don’t know that words like “cunt” and “f*ggot” have meanings not tied to negative connotations outside the US do. This nuance is typically lost on the left and is why i identify as centrist nowadays.

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    lemmy.world user

    Lol they banned discussion of jury nullification despite the fact that they have no reason to so their constant complaining about ml is moot

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      No other instances need to make feud posts about .world because the natural behavior of the mods and users does a good enough job to drive people out.

      No marketing campaign needed.

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      Hmm, no. I have many posts and comments regarding jury nullification and Luigi in general even in .world communities and not a single has been removed. .world is based on Denmark iirc and per Denmark law, it’s illegal to discuss jury nullification in regards to future crime, but not crime already committed

      So in Denmark, “Let’s do [crime] and then we can get people on our side to do jury nullification” is illegal, but “Person did [crime] but I think their actions were justified, so let’s do jury nullification” is not.

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        Which is why their TOS prohibits all discussion relating to it lol