• Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
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    2 days ago

    Satire should be free. Hate speech should not. People shouldn’t be killed for either. I don’t particularly cry when bigots die though.

    All that said, there’s reasons some jokes just aren’t worth telling. There’s times and spaces, and for some jokes there’s neither and that’s ok.

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      17 hours ago

      Yeah but what is hate speech when it comes to religion? For hardcore religious people blasphemy is hate speech. Like when that French teacher just showed drawings of Muhammed in historical context it was enough reason for a Muslim to kill him.

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        15 hours ago

        If you don’t know what hate speech is I don’t know what to tell you. Or are you doing the equivalent of the “what is a woman” nonsense?

        I made a few statements.

        1. Satire is fine. Agree/ disagree? I think we agree

        2. Hate speech is not. Agree/ disagree? I don’t know if we agree

        3. Neither should come with a death penalty? Agree disagree? I hope we agree

        4. I personally don’t cry over dead bigots. A personal statement. Undebatable unless you want to call me a liar.

        5. There’s a time and space for jokes. For some jokes there’s neither. Agree/ disagree? I don’t know if we agree.

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          14 hours ago

          I think his response was clear. Hate speech can be twisted into anything you want as it’s just an opinion.

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            14 hours ago

            I thought they were disagreeing with point two, I don’t want to jump to conclusions though. Social media is full of “so you think [extreme nonsense here]” I am trying to be better than that.

            I dunno. I was around for the “it’s PC culture gone mad” position from yonder year. Their comment was similar to arguments made back then about racism, transphobia, homophobia, any protected class really.

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      1 day ago

      Is making fun of a religion hate speech? Like religion is a choice to embrace so its kind of weird that it’s a protected class, despite the pilgrims fleeing it.

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        19 hours ago

        Is making fun of a religion hate speech?

        Many believers seem to think so. Then again, they think it’s “hate speech” to show the contradictions of their “holy” book, so…

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        20 hours ago

        It depends. If they have blatant hypocrisy and hatred towards others or they’re manipulating laws based on their weird beliefs, or using their religion as an excuse to abuse people then yeah, it’s open season on that. If you’re just making fun of someone because of their funny looking hat, then you’re just being an AH.

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        18 hours ago

        As in most things: it depends. Your question is too broad for an answer lacking nuance. But why did you ask?