Correct me if I am wrong but most of those “personal stories” are pure fiction right?
On Reddit I haven’t read a true story since the 💩🔪 story.
I suspect some are AI and others may be creative writing exercises. Some portion are probably real.
Many of the exaggerated stories are fiction. But there are plenty of Redditors posting pictures of things they saw locally and other information which some could consider sensitive.
Based on your question I thought you were referencing subs like confessions, AITAH etc. Not pics of dumb animals or kids.
Don’t get me wrong, I was referencing those too. In general, when I visited Reddit there were a lot of personal stories and pictures. These can often provide a unique pov which is not found in the news.
Lemmy is more a forum where people discuss the news. The comments are far more advanced and interesting than Reddit. But because people (including me) are far more privacy minded, I feel like they rarely post personal experiences. This might be an unfixable dillemma.
I just assume they meant the cum box
99% minimum
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We are neighbors! I’m at 1342!!! (jk)
(does anyone remember the subr*ddit where everyone pretends to be in the same town?)
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Liar. All Ohio zip codes start with 4
I mean those personal stores on Reddit are all made up
Indeed. What personal stories?
Most of them. The sonnet I wrote about wanting to poop when I was in the hospital with a bowel obstruction? I’m pretty sure that’s still there.
The only post made while not actively pooping
you know it. probably the only few days that year i wasn’t actively pooping 24/7
Even worse the majority of them are just reposts by bots scraping old personal stories people wrote, in addition to stories entirely made up by bots.
I think let me has less personal stories than read it because Lemmy isn’t infested by bots writing personal stories.
Or copying personal stories from previous posts, and recycling them for votes.
You underestimate the amount of bot activity on Reddit. Some threads on all are something like 70%+ bot comments, with most being at least half.
It’s crazy.
I think it might be the case for some, but mostly I think that more people on Lemmy are less focused on themselves and personal anecdotes. More often I see people here reaching for cited resources to support what they’re saying instead of “Oh one time my Uncle’s friend’s cousin…”. It still happens here, but not nearly in the same capacity from what I’ve seen.
I think it’s because most of those personal stories were attention-grabbing fakes and there’s fewer incentives to do that on Lemmy
It might also be that out of 97 million daily active users, if 1/10th of 1% are attention-seeking crazies, that’s 97,000 people over-sharing at absurd levels.
We haven’t been infested by the vain Facebook crowd yet.
I’d say more likely just:
- Not enough users to see that many stories being posted
- Not that many users to make it worth sharing detailled stories
- Lack of communities for that kind of content
You’re just not gonna see a lot of tales from retail in a place dominated by chronically online people, engineers, nerds and somewhat older userbase.
For people unaware, there is !casualconversation@lemm.ee
I’m aware of that one but it’s not that active especially compared to the big reddit communities like TalesFromRetail, AITAH, MaliciousCompliance, TalesFromTechSupport, etc which is where all the good stories come out of on Reddit.
Oh indeed, I was just promoting it to people unaware
People that have the need to share “personal stories” with basically strangers are looking for an audience first and foremost. Lemmy has way fewer people so the type of person trying to seek that attention will be going to facebook/twitter/reddit etc. If Lemmy was one of the top-ten most used sites, then we’d see a lot more of that kind of content.
Also, people who freely share details about their personal lives are generally not as particular about social media platforms. They’re likely to use whichever one they have heard of the most, or the one on which they already have an account, like Reddit. Lemmy is far from mainstream, so they’re not likely to think of it first, if they have heard of it at all.
Personally, that crosses my mind. But I came over in the reddit revolt and saw lemmy as a fresh start. Privacy isn’t easy, but at least make them work for it.
Also, I figure (if it hasn’t happened already) some federated instances out there are nefarious, set up to harvest data.
We just had a helicopter doing low passed over our house and watching the flight on a tracker, it was clear it was casing chosen neighborhoods. The lengths someone went to sell whatever info they grabbed means it’s highly valuable. The fediverse is open and waiting for it to be datamined.
Also, I figure (if it hasn’t happened already) some federated instances out there are nefarious, set up to harvest data.
[Citations needed] or it didn’t happen. There’s precious little extra information that a “nefarious” instance can harvest that any basic web scrapper can’t.
[Citations needed] or it didn’t happen.
I think this mindset is naïve and unrealistic.
People were saying the same thing for decades in response to a small minority warning about government surveillance, often dismissing them with labels like “paranoid”. Eventually, Snowden came along and produced the citations, at extreme risk to himself and his loved ones. It’s an anomaly that they were ever revealed at all.
History is replete with examples of bad stuff going on for ages before irrefutable evidence of it became widely known. In general, if something can be abused to someone’s advantage, it will be, and likely already is.
There’s precious little extra information that a “nefarious” instance can harvest that any basic web scrapper can’t.
You have a point there, but consider also that effective web scraping uses significantly more resources than having the data you want handed to you. Monitoring Lemmy through federation would be much more efficient.
Can’t an instance also collect IP-addreses and device info, if its owner adds some scripts to its web version?
An instance owner can only collect the IP addresses/brower fingerprints of users logged in to their instance. In other words, only slrpnk.net could collect that information about you, because you are only directly connecting to slrpnk.net.
Good point
[Citations needed] or it didn’t happen.
This is such a bullshit challenge. I often see it used to essentially bully someone into a side issue about citations. It’s a great way to avoid discussing the original issue.
I have knowledge (that I rarely share) that I am absolutely not going to cite, because I’m not jeopardising sources, or clearances, or violating my obligations to the official secrets act just to play someone’s status games.
If someone makes a claim, I am perfectly able to go find the relevant citations myself, if there are any. I am more interested in the structure and content of what they’re adding to the discussion.
I often see it used to essentially bully someone into a side issue about citations. It’s a great way to avoid discussing the original issue.
You may well have, but that’s not what I’m doing. I’m familiar with ActivityPub’s & Lemmy’s APIs, and I’m calling bullshit on OP’s hyperbolic claim without evidence or elaboration.
So, from your knowledge of those APIs, this isn’t possible? I don’t need to develop a defensive protocol for it? I like to be comprehensive, especially with a potential (ideological and propaganda, if not literal) invasion from the new fascist state to my south, but if this is a low-level probability, I can put it way down my priority list.
If privacy is what you’re looking for, ActivityPub is never going to provide it, because it wasn’t designed for it and can’t be back-ported into it. You should log off and use (or create) something altogether else.
Credit where due, it is just my best guess. I have no evidence.
I simply think if you have custom code on a machine to ingest data, creating a federation interface may be more suitable and stable in the long run than a scraper. The extra server load may draw attention or run amuck with security policies designed to obscure scrapers.
But that is certainly an option.
An instance is not even required to access our posts and some user information. Most pages are just public.
Yeah but instances are supposed to e.g. delete posts when the user deletes them. A malicious instance might not do that. Even without malice, I know this doesn’t always work because some weeks ago, I deleted a comment almost immediately after saving it, then kept getting upvotes for it; I found out this was because (at least) one very popular instance hadn’t deleted that comment, its users were still seeing it and upvoting it.
Yeah but instances are supposed to e.g. delete posts when the user deletes them. A malicious instance might not do that.
The Internet Archive or archive.today might keep them as well.
Yes, but that is less likely if they have been deleted very soon after creation.
Deletions have to propagate. Comments I deleted immediately after posting them still show up hours later for people on other instances. Archivers and crawlers have as many opportunities to record your deleted comment as there are lemmy instances federated to where you posted it.
Settinging asside the likelyhood that many personal stories there are fantacy. There are just fewer people on this platform and probably the many new people from the last little bit are still testing the waters.
But primarily, I think nowadays people understand that if they put their data online anywhere, there is a chance someone could use it against them. Hence, people here are not doing it as much.
Nah, throwaways are easy
Dear
Penthouse Forumreddit, I’m a 20 year-old college student and I never thought I’d be writing to thePenthouse Forumreddit, but…It’s the lowest common denominator of smut entertainment. The tech companies have managed to veil it all in prestige. It should be called gossip media or something.
Instead people think there’s some kind of real human connection. Some kind of deep discussions happening.
Reddit didn’t used to be that way. Slowly over time it devolved into the same self-flagellation that happens more on “share my thought” type platforms like Twitter. I hope we are better able to manage our federations to keep that type of content at bay while remaining open enough to let people speak their truth in the face of oppression.