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    6 days ago

    This comic depicts four people who couldn’t be bothered to pay attention to anything for ten years.

    I have no sympathy.

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        5 days ago

        Voting. They were given the option to vote, but chose to be the type that “don’t care much about politics”

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            Sure buddy, Dems might be nearly uselesss because of that, but they weren’t actively trying to overthrow the goverment or kill democracy

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            Did you ever canvass for any alternative candidate or do you expect them to just rise out of the ether?

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            So replace the term “both parties” with “the only party” by categorically discarding all faith and worship in all political parties that have done absolutely nothing for anyone of the working class.

            Then make a new party that’s even better.

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              That’s what the Greens and PSL elected to do. They’re the best way out that doesn’t involve bloodshed.

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                What, the anti-nuclear “green party” with the vaccine hesitant Jill Stein? Pass. We need a scientifically aligned, pro-labor party not a career spoiler candidate.

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                And I’m sure their policies would introduce runoff voting for future elections; but as it stands, most voters are currently voting out of fear of “the other big party” - for which voting Green poses an extreme risk.

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                  but as it stands, most voters are currently voting out of fear of “the other big party”

                  Which is a confidence game. The big parties only matter because people have been convinced that they matter. Once this illusion is broken, real progress can begin, but until it is broken the US will simply continue its vicious cycle into oblivion.

                  Besides, what chance to Dems have of winning at this rate anyway? What chance did they have leading up to this past election as they covered up Biden’s dementia, enabled a genocide, and imposed a candidate of their choosing after denying the people actual democracy? Are they redeemable?

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          Pay all the attention you want, it’s not like anyone was ever actually given the option out of this mess through the system.

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            I’m out of this mess through the system. They didn’t do shit to stop me getting on a plane and flying across the ocean last Monday to a more civilized part of the world. It has its own problems, but at least people don’t get into things like massive healthcare debt.

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              Yeah that’s taking advantage of a privilege that practically zero other people have to flee to a safer distance from the problem. That isn’t helping clean up the mess and doesn’t entirely fully remove you from it.
              It allows you to claim you aren’t involved because you stay uninvolved but it’s not the same as being helpful or even being offerable advice to anyone else other than a percentage so small it rounds down to zero.

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                I am saving my queer daughter’s life.

                I suppose you would rather me stick around and have her marched into a camp?

                Do you have any kids? Would you sacrifice children for your cause?

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                  I didn’t say that. I was pointing out the privilege of your statement when you offer that as a solution to this issue.

                  You can use the idea that anyone pointing it out is some villain who would have your family hurt but that’s not reality. It’s just an emotional response to protect your mindset. That’s fine. Don’t treat me poorly because of it though. You already got more privileges than the queer people left behind who may be in what you fantasize and have nightmares of.

                  It’s not a sacrifice if we can’t leave. It’s just reality. Something you have a privilege to alter to ignore.

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                    This is what you said:

                    It allows you to claim you aren’t involved because you stay uninvolved but it’s not the same as being helpful or even being offerable advice to anyone else other than a percentage so small it rounds down to zero.

                    As if that was why I left.

                    I never even claimed I wasn’t involved, so it’s just a lie anyway. For one thing, my wife is still in the U.S. and, since she’s a librarian, she’s facing the possibility of prison. Meanwhile, my meager savings are running out and I don’t have a job.

                    So maybe I don’t have this amazing privilege like you seem to think.

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            Well, this new alternative is working out wonderfully.

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              Doesn’t mean that people weren’t desperate for an alternative. People don’t have the knowledge you do and often don’t think through every possible outcome. If they know they are suffering and there is a chance for change they will leap towards it even if it’s out of the pot and into the fire. Humans crave change and the status quo has been used as a cludgel against them for decades.

              You can be upset that this is the change that’s happening but don’t blame people that are suffering and try not to be smug about it when they suffer more or they will never view you as kind to their plight.

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          Yes, yes they are. Actually the Republicans at least have the virtue of being honest about being evil. Dems are too craven to even admit that.