• sumguyonline@lemmy.world
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    “The south shall rise again” but like as fat inbred Nazi’s is what really confuses me. Like, we nuked Japan, that can easily explain the weird hentai, but the south? They got a black eye then allowed back into the states to start doing Jim crowe shit… Of course we only know the approved history, the constitution was illegally altered during Ww2 and for all we know, had an addition that made what racist and Nazis are doing completely illegal, but since the constitution was changed there’s no one to enforce the actual law of the land. An no one in power seems to care

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      10 hours ago

      Next time we hit them harder, leave some scars in their genes to remind their descendants the best way for us all is together.

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    There seem to be two very different approaches to being anti-nazi - the problem solvers who want to put them down like the vermin they are and move on, and the sociopaths who fantasize about violently acting out all their personal issues, with nazis being socially acceptable targets,

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      Cults are difficult to handle because the members of a cult are both victims of violence and perpetrators of violence.

      The sad hard truth is that we need to see people trapped in far right ideology as potential allies. We need to understand the faulty reasoning and lies that led them down that path and find a way to welcome them back into a world of acceptance and empathy. Personal attacks may feel good but it only entrenches them further.

      Ridicule the ideology. Point out the logical fallacies, inconsistencies and lies… Don’t let them have a platform to spread hate without opposition or counterarguments. But also understand the people spreading the hate are hurting inside and if they switch sides they can be the best allies to help counter-program others.

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        I agree. Hate is a byproduct of fear - the favorite tool of manipulators. Ultimately even the manipulators are victims of some kind of fear that motivates their behavior. But first you stop people from hurting others, then if they survive being stopped you can compassionately try to heal them. The attitude difference I was talking about is wanting to stop wrongdoers vs wanting them to suffer.

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      In the flesh—or, rather, in the hazard suit. I took the liberty of relieving you of your weapons. Most of them were government property. As for the suit, I think you’ve earned it.

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    So… a room full of fascists against two individuals.

    To me, this implies they will either be drugged, to be impaired, or chained. Otherwise, the numbers win.

    I’m not a butcher. Criminals are to be dealt as such. Death is too short of sentence to be a punishment.

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      Fascists double down on their fascism in response to punishment. Dead fascists, preferably by natural causes of course, do not.

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        Not this new brand, the moment they’re actually forced to face consequences for their actions, they tend to shut up.

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          You know. You might be right.

          However, I think it’s best to test out both possibilities in a years-long experiment. Just to be sure.

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    I don’t like Nazis as much as the next guy, but given a choice between beating up Nazis and getting laid, I think I’d prefer to get laid. Ya know, the whole “Make love not war” philosophy.

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      Nazi or not there’s no shot I’d be able to kill people with a crowbar unless they are also actively trying to kill me

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            You meant that you’re more comfortable being killed by a Nazi in a government office signing some paperwork than being killed by a Nazi who uses their own two hands.

            Drag doesn’t really understand that kind of mindset. Dead is dead. Danger is danger. And treating danger less seriously because it wears a suit and tie will get us all killed.

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              It clearly doesn’t matter what I meant because you insane idiots will just invent things and pin them on me to strawman your stupid arguments.

              If you can take a crowbar and kill someone with it, when you’re not in immediate mortal danger, you are a danger to society.

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              That take is pushing on a marginal understanding of that person’s position.

              It is easy to understand they would not engage in violent action unless forced to do so in a life or death situation. And that is understandable. Implies the person has a conscience.

              Unlike the extremists currently trying to overtake the world.

              It may lead to the point where we will have to resort to force to end that trend but it does not mean we have to do it gladly.

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                We should take joy in our survival. When the lion kills an antelope, it feels the thrill of the hunt. It enjoys the taste of the meat. Killing is a horrible wrong and meat shouldn’t be eaten. But the lion doesn’t have a choice. There are no vegan lions. And if the lion must eat meat, then it should enjoy eating meat. Evolution made it enjoy eating meat so it would have an easier time surviving.

                We should do everything we can to make our survival easier. Like the lion, we should learn to find joy in living another day. Like the lion, we don’t have a choice on whether to use violence. There is no time for us to have empathy for our murderers. We should meditate on these feelings until we’ve overcome them.

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                  That is a complete false equivalence.

                  The rethoric you employed can be easily used to uphold the cause you are very poorly trying to denounce.

                  We are not lions. Unlike lions, we can, to a degree, foresee the outcome of our choices and actions. That comes with the notion that every choice has a consequence.

                  The times we are currently enduring are the consequence of passively allowing ideas that were actively destroyed, by force, in our recent past, to gain traction again.

                  The millions of lives lost in war will be wasted, both of victims and soldiers, if we allow ourselves to fall into that path again, something which is looming, but to engage in the same rethoric and acts we should be denoucing will make worst than those we are fighting.

                  If things come to such point, were we will be forced to pick up arms to kill each other, we must not do it with ease of mind. We are not butchers, we are not murderers, we are not indifferent to suffering and misery. We must fight because we have no other option left.

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      I’m not really for beating people up in general, unless it’s necessary.

      If possible, try and change their minds (it has been known to happen).

      Violently resist their attempts at capturing any sort of influence though, which is the point the US is at it seems.

      Nazi salute, straight to jail (which is what recently happened in a Victoria, Australia. A funny comparison to the US)

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-09/jacob-hersant-nazi-salute-sentence/104448256

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      You’ve got no romance in your soul, you’ve got to woo her first by doing a couples activity. Also it’s good cardio.

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      Well if you’re both in there together nobody says you have to leave the room immediately. So both?

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    I’d bring my small box cutter, but I think a crowbar would be more effective. That, and I wouldn’t wanna waste a perfectly good box cutter on street trash.

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    alternatively instead of crowbars what if
    +fistfull of dollar
    +fistfull of dollar
    +ultraricoshot
    +parry
    +disrespect