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Wow, bold choice to ban the import of technology and knowledge. Usually governments are worried about export, so it doesn’t fall into the wrong hands.
Btw, how is the Nvidia stock price doing?
Right? Like, seriously, we all know somebody is just butthurt because their stock options tanked.
Oh, wait, I’m sorry! That was very unpatriotic of me, wasn’t it? I mean, we all know that winning an election guarantees being heavily rewarded with insider trading, right? It’s not like they’re there to represent constituents or anything; I mean, doesn’t everyone know we’re a republic, not a democracy?!
Sigh…
To be fair, this is common practice. Countries do this all the time to protect their economies. Mostly known in the West is China which banned many US services.
Of course, security of the data of the citizens is also a factor. You don’t want foreign countries use this data to interfere in any way.
Honestly, I don’t think this is common practice in non-oppressive countries. I mean sure, this happens in North Korea, Iran, China… But I’m relatively free to consume what I want with a few minor exceptions. For example we don’t import food that isn’t food-safe by our standards. Regardless if it’s common practice to eat it in other places. Also food may not be able to enter the country due to laws on animal cruelty. Similar things apply to electronic devices that aren’t up to code. And some select few things are banned altogether and you can’t have them and neither can someone import them. Other than that, regulations aren’t super strict. I can use all American social media platforms despite them stealing my personal data and violating European privacy laws regularly, can use Russian or Chinese websites… I think I live in a free country.
Helping domestic economy is done with tariffs / import tax. And not by banning things and putting people in jail.
And mind that this isn’t about the service that collects your data and gives it to the Chinese government. This is about downloading the model file and using it all by yourself. So no data gets transferred to a foreign country. And it’s not because people could get harmed or anything. This is just because the vice president doesn’t want it personally. Like in some dictatorship. Otherwise they would have banned transferring data into foreign countries, if that’s what it’s about. But they didn’t do that, because it’s not about protecting the people.
Or did I miss something and there are other examples for limitations on import?
No, I think you did not miss anything 😇
Good summary
now i gotta download something i don’t even wanna download.
Yup. Downloaded 7b, 32b, and 70b varieties this afternoon. Entirely out of spite.
Since those smaller models are technically fine-tunes of Meta/Facebook’s LLAMA, using Deepseek’s outputs, I wonder if they would be covered by the bill at all.
7b and 32b are Qwen2 🙃
I literally just did the same
Fascist regime and power/police abuse has started.
P.S.: It seems like the US is becoming similar to Russia, kleptocratic country and organised crime in government.
Every step unchallenged is an invitation to do more.
Hawley’s statement called DeepSeek “a data-harvesting, low-cost AI model that sparked international concern and sent American technology stocks plummeting.”
data-harvesting
???
It runs offline… using open-source software that provably does not collect or transmit any data…
It is low-cost and out-competes American technology, though, true
sent American technology stocks plummeting
Oh yeah, thats what did it, totally
You don’t fuck with the big man money tbh… That’s like rule 1 of the game.
For Base Model
git lfs install git clone https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3-Base
For Chat Model
git lfs install git clone https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3
this is deepseek-v3. deepseek-r1 is the model that got all the media hype: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1
Yea, comment OP needs to edit links with howany up votes that got.
This is astounding.
I mean, not the Deepseek or jailing stuff. I mean a Senator actually proposing a law. I thought the way our government worked was, the annoying orange declares a vague uncited threat to be bad, and signs an executive order on it!
No, we also allow mega corporations to submit bills that get rubber stamped by a rep somewhere. I don’t think a corporation would be so audacious as to submit this, so it’s a rare case of original content.
I’m gonna download it even harder.
See you hell evildoer!
That’s awesome! I didn’t know you could download an LLM and run it locally! That’s what I’m really interested in is something that’s on my side and not a conduit to Google, MS or other.
I’m so glad Hawley proposed this bill or I wouldn’t have known that deepseek was open source and downloadable! I’ll have to go look for a download.
Ollama makes it pretty easy, and there are other runners as well. Good luck!
AFAICT it’s not open source, just open weights.
How to download/run a uncensored LLM locally:
Download the model and run locally is the most secure and privacy friendly way to use it.
It’s absurd how little they know about what they are doing.
And that’s exactly why they want to stop it
Nah, Congress (esp the Senate) is a bunch of old people yelling at clouds, and sometimes they yell the same thing. Don’t give them too much credit.
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I doubt they understand local vs server distinction.
“Server is when we ask Amazon to build a backdoor, local is when we ask Microsoft”
It’s easy to run a distilled version of the R1 model locally. It’s very difficult to run the full version. Min $6k to get 7 tokens per second.
Here’s one for 2k if you don’t mine jank (edit: and 3-4 tokens :) )
https://digitalspaceport.com/how-to-run-deepseek-r1-671b-fully-locally-on-2000-epyc-rig/
I hear its easy, but I’ve had no luck at all on the most distilled models (for prelim testing), and am wondering how things have broken so badly.
I wasn’t thinking of downloading an AI onto my low tier computer until now.
I’ve got a laptop kicking around from 2010 that’s about to get deepseek just because they’re proposing this dumb ass shit. I don’t even use Gen AI.
Finally affordable housing!
same lmao
Land of the free
Land of the free only refers to owning guns.
I wasn’t gonna, but now I gotta…
You laugh, but stay safe
God, I hate Hawley. He’s an embarrassment to my state.
He doesn’t even live in Missouri.
So I guess it’s free speech as long as you agree with the goverment’s speech. If not, then it’s a crime.
Elon Musk was just posting a factory of prisoners all working for cents on the dollar saying that America needs more of that.
free speech is when racial slurs obviously
Always have been, and this is a bipartisan value, heck, it’s common to all political parties of the world.
Yeah that’s called being a sovereign… They will respect each other doing since it is a club in a oligarchy or “democracy” but little people need watch that mother fucking mouth, or daddy gonna issue some backhand
