On the one hand, glad to see MS get out of this, I don’t think the tech is nearly mature enough to work on the battlefield especially on the software side. I’ve worn the v1 IVAS and developed on hololens, there are definite use cases but - full battle rattle? no. For critical applications something like this must be combat hard and it’s nowhere near ready.
eh that said anduril is fucking evil tho…
How long until we have Cyberpunk 2077 style quick hacks that can make enemy soldiers just shoot themselves?
When you have a lot of money, you might try that and even succeed part of the time.
These have been a huge failure so far. But some guy in a suit thinks it would be cool so keep spending
That’s Research and Development (R&D) for you.
I don’t know about military, but there was a number of successful applications of hololens in the industrial environment. It never went anywhere where I saw it, because the device was too expensive, too experimental, and it was impossible to purchase, but the ideas were ok.
That fashion started, if anyone remembers, with Google Glass. And those for me appear very nice.
But if most people won’t read text on transparent background (even transparent terminal emulator windows), then trying to process information with real world in the background is harder.
Successful applications and OK ideas can sometimes be false positives, because it’s, #1, safe to approve of something that won’t be implemented anyway, #2, the initiative to try something often comes from superiors who only want to hear disapproval or approval of specific things about the initiative, and about the initiative itself only approval, #3, I like some things for short periods, but I wouldn’t ever be able to use something like Hearthstone’s UI at work.
Iirc IVAS made like 50% of soldiers nauseous to the point of throwing up. So let’s shoot some more billions at this, sure
having been in combat, with electronic gear designed for the military, i can say this will be a million percent terrible. it’s gonna be too heavy (already they carry too much- i have degenerated discs as do many of my buds) and will break constantly. to say nothing of keeping it charged- who wants range anxiety in a combat situation.
now i will say that going to Iraq radicalized me against war and i filed as a conscientious objector, but back in those days right after 9/11 there wasn’t much of an antiwar movement.
My first thought was the reliability. Can you rely on this new tech in a life or death situation. I didn’t even think of the batteries.
I might be fearing something unrealistic, but hope this at least doesn’t depend on network connectivity at all times.
Hey Palmer Luckey, eat shit.
Haley Joel Osment’s role on Silicon Valley parodying this dipshit really sums it up.
I was briefly confused how an open source flashlight firmware had anything to do with this… then I noticed this post wasn’t in the Flashlight forum. So apparently Anduril is a war contractor AND a great flashlight firmware but are not related at all.
I just don’t like something intended for war being called Anduril. They’ve missed JRRT’s point completely.
There is also a company called palantir which is pretty much a cyberpunk corporate distopia surveillance company.
Well, that would at least somewhat resonate with what a palantir is.
With the wrong part, the kind that Denethor thought he could use and that Sauron and Saruman used, and I really like more the implication of that from Frodo’s dream where he stands at one of the towers in the north looking far away.
And Aragorn’s sword :c
That broken thing nobody remembered, until it was reforged.
I can name a few other such things, but at this point in my existence I’m just afraid to do so. Murphy’s laws and such.
Yeah, Anduril the company has been around for a minute (Since 2017). Luckey got in early on selling weapons tech to the government after he sold Oculus.
What’s with some really scary companies (Anduril, Palantir) cribbing their names from LOTR?
Microsoft was doing the headset? Did they have clippy asking who the soldier wanted to kill that day? Maybe mid-combat blue screens to blind the user? Oh wait, a forced update while it was supposed to determine the trajectory of an incoming mortar…
pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org 's world coming to reality
What problem are these even designed to solve?
Wiki makes me think it’s a hammer in search of a nail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Visual_Augmentation_System
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Friend/foe identification
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Visualising objectives
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Highlighting dangers
Etc.
Maybe… I want to read the proposal honestly
Are these things you thought of or based on something else?
It’s the type of problems that can be potentially solved using AR
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The problem it’s trying to solve is “How do we make ungodly amounts of money as ‘Defense Contractors’?”
To be genuinely fair, this sort of waste is part and parcel to the US Military.
This is pretty much the story of the entire Land Warrior program. Nobody ever expected it to be a Real Thing, it was always a pie-in-the-sky boondoggle to make a shitload of money for the MIC.
For sure. Head mounted displays are useful for, say, technical repairs. And I see the value as an alternative to the F35 helmet. But besides that … for infantry? Idk. Wishful thinking IMHO
It’s made by the same kind of techbros who are angry that the “future doesn’t look like the future”, that got us the Cybertruck and the other recent Tesla abominations.
When artists/writers design future tech for their cyberpunk dystopia, coolness is a greater factor than usability, especially as most creators don’t have much experience with product design. I just go with the “rule of cool” and aesthetics, even in cases where stuff would look obsolete by today’s standards, because some powerful people in the tech industry decided everything must be touchscreens and voice commands.
The Canucks won’t stand a chance
Anduril is scary. They seem able to harness the most elegant technologies that idiot government redneck contractors tended to avoid in years past. I’ve seen them in Haskell and Nix forums offering jobs to morally bankrupt autists FAR too often. Fuck you, Anduril.
FUCK YOU!!!
Yep, senior Haskell developer here and I have had their recruiters hounding me many times, even though I have told them to fuck off again and again.
I always find it so funny that they chose Haskell. They are desperate to hire, but no one in the Haskell community actually wants to work for them. I’m in a discord server with a bunch of veteran Haskellers and everyone there won’t touch them with a 100ft pole.
A friend of mine was working at a company with contracts for them when they released their first drones back in the early days.
At work, they watched the trailer for the fancy drone. (Later that day he would share the same video with me)
He made the joke: “At least we know what will be coming to gun us down in ten years.”
That joke went down like a brick with his coworkers. No one else seemed to understand the severity of what we were buidling up to
So this is the Land Warrior concept that keeps going?
