Everybody hates pedophiles, so by calling [insert group here], pedophiles then you get most people to hate you.
Since at least the 1970s and probably much earlier, any and all non-heterosexual people have been painted as pedophiles by right wing / conservatives.
Indeed, a lot of the pedophile panic these days is driven by those people, because it is one of the few things they can get everyone to hate, and that hate often shuts down nuance and reason, and while real pedophiles are a problem, they want to expand that unthinking hate, that knee jerk ‘burn the heretic’ reaction to more people.
This is the reason we now see people attacking even completely fictional media, because they’re trying as hard as possible to slippery slope it.
There is an ongoing attempt to create an equivalence of Trans Persons (and anyone exposing youth to LGBTQ+ ideas in any form, including loving families) to pedophiles through CONSTANT repetition, despite any lack of widespread evidence. There is also a simultaneous attempt to strongly advocate for death penalty for pedophiles. I’m sure you can see where this is heading …
Mass purge of the Republican Party and owner class?
If the Republican Party can purge the United Kingdom they deserve the win that’s impressive range.
The question I want answered is was the (fake) word “pedosexual” made up by them or by trolls making fun of them?
“Pedosexual” was a false flag operation by 4channers to try and make people think LGBTQ folks supported pedos.
Was that with the MAPS thing?
MAPs is a 4chan troll yes
What are MAPs? First time I’ve come across it.
I think it was meant to be minor attracted person or some shit. I mostly just remember 4Chan trying to lump it into LGBT+ issues
Thank you for your reply.
I honestly have no idea if MAPs are trolls or actual pedos trying to rebrand.
Because it’s sexual and they aren’t developed to believe sex exists
It’s projection they don’t want to remove pedophiles from their own ranks, and demonizing a scapegoat minority group they can blame their own failures on.
They really wish these articles were about trans people instead of clergy
Everyone is right; its an easy way to equate “deviancy” and to deny people rights. Its not just LGBT+; whenever nazis want to make a group of people a target, they accuse them of being “rapists” or “pedophiles.” The OG Nazis accused the Jews of wanting to molest Aryan women. Just look at Birth of a Nation. Or Trumps comments about Mexicans being rapists. It is also just generalized dehumanizing language.
But also: there is power in redefining “pedophilia.” It lets them attack LGBT+ by calling them “groomers” but then involve the services of inspectors who exist to… “verify” genitalia? It allows them to bring back child marriage or protect powerful clergy or rich assholes like Epstien, while attacking gay marriage. Libertarians attack the age of consent and want to bring back child labor. Everything becomes pedophilia except actual pedophilia. The real question becomes, why, when one has enough money or institutional power to do anything, like go to space or buy a senator to protect your wealth systemically, why does become extremely interested in fucking children?
Transphobes aren’t using logic. They try to brand us as pedophiles to try to get rational people on their side and to normalize hate, but it’s a distraction. We’re obviously not pedos.
It also serves dual purpose because most transphobes look up to politicians who are literal pedos
Yuuup. Ten times out of ten it’s a republican politician who needs to “think of the children” a lot less.
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Of the infinitesimally small percentage who might be, (a) it has absolutely nothing to do with them being trans and (b) I wager they’d be less likely to act on it than cis pedos since the risk of violence is already significantly higher just from being trans. Not to defend pedos in any way- we want absolutely nothing to do with them
Use your brain
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You say, “biased towards the trans community,” I say, “biased against baseless bigotry,” as any sensible person should be.
Your ramblings may be scattered with statements that are agreeable in isolation (like “they are just people like the rest of us”), but your stance seems to ignore the fact that, unlike “the rest of us”, the trans community is being specifically targeted and marginalized, so for the sake of equity it seems fair (not biased) for the rest of us to more vehemently defend them.
This is how propaganda works. Take something you want people to hate, and insist that it is equivalent to something people already hate.
Because children are almost always used as an excuse for hating something you don’t really understand. They’re a group that can’t speak for themselves, so it’s easy to frame everything as “think of the children”.
most paedophiles are cis men. Cis women paedophiles absolutely dwarf paedophiles trans people even when accounting for population.
It turns out, people who violate others don’t need to go through years of doctor’s visits and dehumanizing bureaucracy to breach someone’s boundaries.
It’s just the same fascist projection repeated ad nauseum because it works. You immediately have to go on the defensive and tiptoe around the taboo subject of paedophilia instead of actually challenging their assumptions. Anything less gets you accused of accepting child abuse, which is just the first step repeated again. By the time you’ve even addressed the claims, anyone worth reaching out to has logged off and the fascists have inched closer to the levers of the state.
It never was about paedophilia, or rape, or abuse, or sports. It’s about exploiting emotions and appealing to a constructed idea of “common sense” that can tie you up in its endless tendrils so they can ignore you and dehumanise you more efficiently.
As someone who used to, although with gay not trans people, I believed that gay people were sexual deviants and that society accepting them would then go on to accept paedos, and that accepting deviancy was the problem that should be stopped.
Contrary to what others have posted I didn’t conflate gay people with paedos, or label the two groups as equivalent, except in that I thought they were both deviant.
To distract from the fact that their churches are literal child rape conveyor belts
Are you telling me that lesbians weren’t allowed to get married because their was no groom(ing)?
it’s all part of the childist propaganda that says only people from outside of the family could ever hurt children when reality says otherwise. hence the church calling themselves God’s family, priests being called father, paternalistic bs like that
Your mistake is believing that everyone is acting logically or in good faith.
Or, as it’s often the case, informed! Many people hate not just out of ignorance but also because everyone else is doing it but they don’t know why.
During the Lavender Scare, some homophobic government officials had to be explicitly informed what being gay meant because they were operating/ruining lives on a vague idea. :/
As you said, most people hate pedophiles. So by constantly labeling trans people as pedophiles, transphobes are trying to get most people to hate us.
It’s very basic ‘think of the children’ rhetoric.
Our emotions are more easily manipulated in this way, because generally people are hard wired to protect babies and children.
So by associating trans people with paedophiles, right wingers are able to more easily hijack into what would otherwise be rational people. It also makes it more difficult to debate against because nobody wants to be labelled as someone who wants to hurt kids.
Best answer here. So much overthinking in this thread. Nope, OP nailed it, that simple, nothing need be added.
