• NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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    10 days ago

    Can we stop treating the “national security” and “endangering our troops” takes as if they make sense? Bombing brown people isn’t national security.

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      10 days ago

      They aren’t trying the win the minds of people who already agree with them.

      There are different words and different views of morality and liberty to different groups. This is speaking to the common sense of the right voters in their own language and values. Loyalty, pride in country over dictators, armed service as personal sacrifice for the greater population.

      Reds and blues actually agree on almost everything they just explain it completely differently and fight while agreeing. The politicians however are like cartoons of the farthest views to cover for lobbyists running our government since like 1980.

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        Adding to what the other guy said, trying to get Republicans to convert to your side through FACTS and LOGIC is a fool’s errand. Always has been, always will be. This is why the Democrats keep losing; they focus too much on the enemy and not nearly enough on their own base (which, I should say, already outnumbers the enemy massively; they frankly don’t need anybody else).

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          not nearly enough on their own base

          This is why people don’t vote. They believe their vote doesn’t count and I’ve yet to see Democrats hop on that wagon and ride it to town. Like, do it while it’s still true, fools!

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        10 days ago

        This type of “By you’re own logic” framing doesn’t actually get results. All it does is reinforce a militarist viewpoint as the natural default for Democrats, as well as Republicans.

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      10 days ago

      I agree with you 100%. However, they could have been talking about anything else, hence the national security tag. In this case it just happened to be bombing brown people.

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      Whilst I agree that in this particular case there wasn’t much of a threat to troops (even if the Houthis knew beforehand I highly doubt they have any capabilities to take down US jets), the main national security issue is what this means, that high ranking officials are exchanging top secret information on insecure chanels. If a foreign adversary were to hack their phones, or if like this case, someone who shouldn’t have been added was added and the info was leaked, this could lead to much more sensitive and dangerous information getting to the wrong hands.