• Donebrach@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    7 days ago

    Me, not being a little baby man, am going to buy one at some point because I want to play the Zeldas and the Marios and no one is gonna keep me from enjoying those games when they come out—and I’m still gonna emulate on my Retroid ‘cause fuck Big Gaming.

    • Walican132@lemmy.todayEnglish
      4312·
      8 days ago

      Loud person who makes their entire personality disliking Nintendo tells you not to buy Nintendo without highlighting any good reasons, just focusing on easy to hate on reasons.

      • doomcanoe@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        202·
        8 days ago

        are… are ‘‘easy to hate reasons’’ somehow inherently ‘‘not good reasons’’?

        • Walican132@lemmy.todayEnglish
          85·
          8 days ago

          I wouldn’t say that no. But they are being used to whip people up into a fury effectively with out sharing all the facts. That’s why the video is ridiculously biased. Because if you came at it from a balanced perspective most people aren’t irrational. Nintendos actions while shit, all largely make sense.

    • B0NK3RS@lemmy.worldEnglish
      172·
      8 days ago

      This video has been doing the rounds but if I remember correctly they are overly negative and are obviously not the target for Nintendo and have no intention of buying the Switch even before all the controversy.

      • lunsjentilanette@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        7 days ago

        Ive been a nintendo fan my entire childhood and early adult life. I would say i am (at least clasically) nintendos target audience. I agree with the sentiments in the video. Nintendo is doing a lot of shitty consumer hostile things and people forking up ever increasing prices for decade old games will only validate their business practices and quality will further decay (like the games industry in general). That is essentially what he is saying. I will not buy the switch 2 (this video did not change my stance either way)

        Granted his overly negative rant was a bit tiresome, it felt like he was impersonating the angry nintendo nerd without the comedy. But that just feels like any other yt video rant these days

        • Whirlybird@aussie.zoneEnglish
          11·
          6 days ago

          But most of these “consumer hostile” things aren’t really “consumer hostile” though. They’re just “not giving away stuff for free”.

          By that reasoning, literally everything that requires the consumer to pay is “consumer hostile”.

          What are these “consumer hostile” things specifically?

        • B0NK3RS@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          7 days ago

          I agree with the overall negativity Nintendo has brought upon themselves but videos like this are, like you say, tiresome and disingenuous from the creator.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      7·
      8 days ago

      Nintendo bad, so don’t support Nintendo.

      That’s about it. I didn’t finish it either, but I heard the rant and figured I wasn’t missing much by not finishing.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      53·
      8 days ago

      Why? The first Switch is pretty fantastic for my use case, which is casual gaming w/ my kids, their friends, and my nephews/nieces.

      I also have a Steam Deck and most of my gaming money goes to PC games. But I do like the Zelda series, so I’ll buy a handful of games now and then for the Switch (usually as gifts to my kids for X-mas or whatever to kill two birds w/ one stone).

      • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.orgEnglish
        3·
        6 days ago

        Shitty hardware, stick drift that they port to the new console, insane prices, they shoce dlc’s into kuds faces until they make their parents buy it…

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          74·
          8 days ago

          Sure, if it’s not a good value for you, then don’t buy it. Console games have never been cheap, and consoles have generally been affordable (not cheap).

          IMO, the prices aren’t outlandish when you take inflation into account. Here’s an article that goes over it:

          • OG NES - $180 in 1985, ~$480 today
          • SNES - $200 in 1991, ~$415 today
          • N64, Game Cube, Wii - ~$330, give or take
          • Switch - ~$440

          And this page lists game prices:

          • NES - $146
          • N64 - $120
          • GameCube - ~$90
          • Wii - $80
          • Switch - $77

          So generally a downward trend. The Switch 2’s expected prices are a bit of a correction to $80-90, but still pretty much in line with recent consoles.

          Here’s the image for reference:

          • QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            6·
            8 days ago

            No, I get it. You really don’t need to post an entire breakdown when I can read it on any gaming site. These never seem to take into account that manufacturing games has become much cheaper or that the majority of games are sold digitally which have negligible costs compared to physical. Maybe I’m wrong about that but at the end of the day we are still getting used to $70 when it comes to modern consoles—so Nintendo thinking their games are worth more than that on top of being a generation behind? It’s a shitty look, honestly, especially combined with the other crap that’s come out about pricing since the reveal

            • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              5·
              8 days ago

              manufacturing games has become much cheaper

              Sure, the physical distribution is cheaper, but the development is way more expensive. That’s largely offset by more sales, hence the gradually reducing real price of games.

              Yeah, it’s never fun seeing prices go up, but they tend to stay pretty flat during a console generation. So at the start, they’re making more than at the end, when inflation has chipped away at the value they’re getting per sale.

              I’m not saying it’s “good” or anything, I also prefer cheaper games, just that it’s understandable when looking at pricing history compared to inflation.

            • gila@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              8 days ago

              You might be right, but basically everyone is expecting there to be significant features of MKW which are as yet unannounced but will be featured in the upcoming Nintendo direct which is focused on that game specifically.

              There is certainly an argument to be made about DLC cost being included upfront (and Zelda was already $90 on Switch 1 including the DLC) to avoid splitting up the player base for a game with an online focus. That might not be what they’re doing, but my point is there are things they could do to justify the price increase for many players.

              They also might just do nothing more than what’s already been announced, but I doubt it because why then would they do another reveal later?

  • CaptPretentious@lemmy.worldEnglish
    222·
    8 days ago

    Didn’t plan to buy one, before the S2 was announced.

    The number of anti consumer actions they take is amazing. They still hate YouTube. Instead of making their games not suck, they sue anyone who dares to try. They have a handful of console exclusive that even interest me, everything else I’ll get in Steam and it’ll play better, have cloud save, and a refund policy.

    I bought a NES in the 80s because it was the most amazing, magical thing. Now I’m at the point of ‘Fuck Nintendo, let it fall’

  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    132·
    8 days ago

    I haven’t decided yet, because it’s not available yet. Once it’s available, I’ll check reviews and whatnot to decide whether to purchase it. Maybe I will, maybe I won’t, it depends on a bunch of factors.

    Yeah, Nintendo sucks right in the legal department. But whether I buy their products has less to do with their legal department and more to do with the quality of the product.

  • JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    7·
    8 days ago

    I won’t. And not even due to the bad PR.

    I never bought a Switch. Thought about it, but never got around to it. I guess I’m just not the target audience.

    Though now in thinking about it, I bet I can pick up a good condition used Switch on the cheap once this comes out. Maybe I’ll get the first gen Switch after all!

  • steeznson@lemmy.worldEnglish
    126·
    8 days ago

    I’m getting one on launch. Love my OG switch and got many cherished hours of gaming out of it.

  • Matt@lemmy.mlEnglish
    4·
    8 days ago

    I mean, my Switch works, and if Microsoft won’t port the Xbox UI to Windows handhelds, then I’ll buy a Steam Deck.