I think any sane world, someone would have stepped in a decade ago as an advocate, and gotten them the combination of mental health care and accountability explained to them in compassionate terms they could understand. There has never needed to be a fucking wiki dedicated to this person.
Early Sonichu is fascinating and compelling ad outsider art. Daniel Johnston famously had a breakdown and was protected from the world after getting famous. The world needs to react to weirdos with a little more kindness.
Y’all also have to remember that KiwiFarms started as a Chris-Chan harassment forum. Kiwifarms is so fucked up that cloudflare won’t even host them. There’s something about staring into the void long enough…
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I kind of remember she was offered therapy at one point and her parents stepped in and shut that down? Last I looked into her was when her father had died, and it seemed like that would be a good change. But now I’ve read an article about her arrest a few years ago, and I can’t believe the judge didn’t order an evaluation given what Chan reportedly said at her hearings.
Seems like people are still treating her like a freak :(
It’s also, as you noted, a condemnation of internet culture.
Chris-Chan was clearly disabled and mentally ill, and had a whole subculture of people devoted to increasing his suffering who spent significant effort on hurting him as much as possible. The whole thing is fucked, and I think people’s mercilessness to him had a lot to do with causing the final tragic ending to the whole saga including causing innocent people around him to suffer.
What happened to Chris-Chan is absolutely disgusting. And I don’t know why anyone would want to criticize her now, given how much past bullying and harassment she received. Do you really want to be with the 4chan and KiwiFarms crowd?
the trolls didnt make them rape their mom.
Neither of us have been the target of an online harassment campaign.
There’s a lot of very valid criticisms of them. But harassment is a different story.
Nothing she was accused of is worse than what our sitting elected federal politicians in the USA have done. Perhaps those actions are just her being a “person of the time.”
What the FUCK man, to have this much motivation for something like this reads to me like a serial killer mentality
It’s so fucked up. Chris Chan believed this shit was happening. Genuinely believes that they are talking to Jesus over discord, and that their wife is being tortured. These conversations would end with things like Chris Chan recording videos confessing to wanting to sexually abuse their mother or sending money or these people. (Magi Chan is also supposed to be Chris’s husband. This polyamorous pedophilic marriage is also the idea of these individuals.)
I’ve only briefly heard mention of this Chris-Chan, and it tended to be in the negative like he was another Jake Paul type person.
This is fucked up. And even more fucked up that somehow the victim is the one who gets shit talked.
Oh man, these items are pretty tame compared to the troll that went by Bluespike, who pretended to have Chris’s “girlfriend” (also played by bluespike) hostage, and forced Chris to shove his Sonichu medallion in his rectum on camera. Truly awful. And after Chris did it, bluespike revealed he was an underage teenage boy, and there was no Julie. So, all the cybering Chris had been doing for like, months, was with a teenage boy.
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it’s also important to note that the trolling that was brought upon chris chan ultimately worsened any prior mental health issues they had, by having flocks of ppl pretending to be fans, love interests and villains. Not only did it give Chris Chan a fake sense of importance (fake as in orchestrated) that ultimately made them more egotistical but also more paranoid, to the point they were passive-aggressive towards anyone who interacted with them (I’m using they/them to refer to classic chris and trans mtf chris simultaneously) and making them an overall aggressive person. They were absolutely wrong in many occasions (being homophobic, sexist, racist, ecc…) but it doesn’t excuse the people who were active participants in their mental decline, enabling certain fantasies that ultimately made them psychotic then turn around and acting all moral like “chris you shouldn’t do that” while they egged him on the whole time. They took advantage of a deeply mentally ill person who is also autistic for their own entertainment and then people act as if they didn’t contribute to the person that Chris chan is today. If there was no trolling Chris could’ve been helped appropriately (excluding the Bob and Barb factor) and they could’ve been radically different, but all the trolling did was close them off to any kind of help or prospect for the future while slowly making them find comfort only in their own imagination.
I don’t see the healthcare angle of things tbh. Chris had an adequate of intervention in their youth but it was deflected by their parents. There’s not much you can do to treat a high-functioning autistic when Mom and Dad say “no.”
I’d argue it’s a condemnation of “groupthink” more than anything, with entire websites set up to torment them because everyone involved thought everyone else involved thought it was funny and not at all morally reprehensible.
See - your first paragraph I think betrays a problem with the American health care system - that “parents rights” extends to denying care. Christian Scientist kids should not be left to painfully die of preventable disease, and parents of developmentally delayed children who do not get them appropriate intervention should probably face some sort of child welfare investigation and consequences (in a post RFK/return to sanity world where the interventions are ethical and not shit like ABA).
The US “troubled teen” industry is another symptom of this rot.
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Chris graduated high school, graduated community college, had a fine social life in their youth, designed websites, wrote poetry, etc., etc. There was never any reason for intervention past a few counseling sessions that he did receive.
This not normal.
I dont think you understand Christory enough. But there have been many times where people try to step in and help him. And every single time Chris acts out of selfishness and fucks them over in someway.
Chris simply just isn’t a good person. Maybe the mental psychology is a big aspect of it, but it is also that same psychology that stops him getting better. You cannot redeem someone who just doesn’t want to be redeemed.
All the harassment he’s received could’ve been solved by logging off of the internet and/or ignoring it. Yet the whole time he kept on playing into it to point that he’s at now.
I don’t know enough about opinions on the matter to do anything but upvote for a solid post.
Only thing I even know about it is the name and that fuckery was going on. It’s not the kind of drama I tend to be entertained by specifically because the fuckery that would get discussed in passing that I’d scroll past was usually really really ugly fuckery, and that’s bullshit, period.
So scanning the screen shots you provided is enough to make me glad I didn’t ever pay attention to it. I’d have been furious
I wont lie. I fucking hate myself and need this asshole to make me feel better.
I’m so pleased to see this isn’t actually an unpopular opinion.
I was a toxic little shit who loved reading Chris Chan drama, and I’m utterly ashamed. They were just a weird person who deserved the right to do weird things in relative privacy.
I don’t think that’s unpopular. And if it is, youre absolutely right that it looks bad on all of us. The things Chris did to his mom were just despicable. But, if there had been real friends and help available instead of trolls all the way back in 2008, maybe we would have a loveable weirdo making questionable comics in a healthy way, with a real support system now that Bob is gone and Barb is basically gone.
Imagine a world where you can say any name you want and people know who the hell you’re talking about.
From context I’m guessing this is a streamer that a bunch of people have an unhealthy parasocial relationship with. I will never know, because I don’t typically look at replies.
I will never know, because I don’t typically look at replies.
So why bother posting such cynical shit?
For the other readers who may care, He was nothing like a streamer or internet personality as you assume. They were obsessed with sonic and shared their fanfiction comics online, were mocked ruthlessly and their mental health prevented them from dealing with it in a healthy way. They went full deep-end.
I say he but I think they transitioned and transitioned back? Can’t remember.
Transitioned, prefers she nowadays but he is okay for past events.
The iffy iffy thing is that some of the manipulative stuff and breaks from reality make the “which pronoun” debate difficult. Chris Chan is not in her right mind. There’s evidence in the comics of a group of trolls called the “Idea Guys” that were pressuring her into doing and acting in ways that were making her uncomfortable. She claims to be an inter dimensional goddess ready to merge fictional realities (the smoking gun for the “Idea Guys” is the inclusion of like Hyperspace Neptune(?) and a couple of other series Chris Chan never had interest in.)
At some point some sort of court order or adult protective service is necessary. When someone starts calling themselves a “CPU Goddess” and “Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime” it’s less “kick the autistic” and more “wow the internet bullied a kind of shitty guy into insanity.”
You’re fascinating. Do you reply to every post you don’t know or understand to declare you have nothing to add?
The people need to know
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Letters to type “chris-chan” in your address bar: 10
You’re taking extra time out of your day to let everyone know that you refuse to learn, even when learning is quicker.
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