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There’s no “maybe” about it. It’s documented. Listen to the extremely American podcast
The Good Old Days they always refer to is the world where Adult White Christian Males get to rule the world, do whatever they want, say whatever they want, everyone is subservient to them and every other race, religion, identity, minority and female is below them.
It’s not as conspiratorial as that.
- Politician: We’ll make it like the good old days
- Voter remembering their childhood: I remember that, life was so simple.
- Politician: …so vote for me.
All the voters are voting for their own individual fantasies. The politician just wants the votes. This is just dirty populist games.
Mild fascism was always “okay” in colonial-settler history. It was only when the Nazis went full fascist and started attacking other Europeans for either not buying into their world view or for having impure Slavic or Mediterranean blood did shit hit the fan.
For many of these regressionists, going back hinges on the ascension of neo Nazism.
It really is pathetic when you think about it. Such a desire to have people beneath them…
Don’t they know that this is still true, as long as you’re part of the owner class?
I wish they were honest about their selfishness, at least it’s logically consistent. I’ll take that over their cult like thinking.
Suicides in women in the 1950s and 1960s were actually lower than what they were in the 1980’s, so this is a bullshit comparison tweet, where the 1970s happened to have the highest rate and the tweeter is putting a causation to the numbers that may not even have direct causation. I could just as easily claim that vehicle fuel economy improving during the 70’s caused a decrease in female suicides.
Female suicides hit its lowest at around 2000 before trending upwards again.
And then VTEC kicked in yo, and female suicides skyrocketed
Lol. Right? What was that, like 1997? VTEC makes women kill themselves.
While I can’t necessarily disagree with your correlation≠causation argument…
I could just as easily claim that vehicle fuel economy improving during the 70’s caused a decrease in female suicides.
Better gas mileage probably contributed a more than zero amount to that decrease.
You could very well be right, but it’s just impossible to control for such variables, so we can’t say one way or the other with a degree of certainty. Especially considering that a 20% swing in numbers consists of a mere 1 or 2 people per 100,000 difference.
Women weren’t allowed to open a bank account in the states until the 70’s
There is a good chance grandma didn’t leave grandpa because she literally couldn’t
Yeah, stop spreading this misinformation. The Credit Act of 1974 made it illegal to discriminate in banking and credit but there was nothing preventing women from having bank accounts before 1974.
1862 California passed a law allowing women to open their own bank accounts without a male signature.
My grandmother and mother both had bank accounts in the 60s in their names, along with home mortgage and business accounts, with no other signatures other than their own.
there was nothing preventing women from having bank accounts before 1974.
Depending on which banks were available in her area, she may still have been unable to open a credit card despite it being legal to do so. Prior to 1974, it was legal for banks to require a man’s signature for a woman to open a credit card, and many banks chose to require this. According to this article from the Smithsonian Magazine, some banks also applied a 50% reduction to womens’ wages when calculating the credit card limit for an applicant.
I agree that the facts are very frequently misrepresented.
Ohh they’re not ignoring it. They want to go back because of it.
source for the suicide stat: https://www.statista.com/statistics/187478/death-rate-from-suicide-in-the-us-by-gender-since-1950/
So the suicide rate for both genders actually significantly dropped right after 1970. Wonder what’s that about?
Living in a relationship that you don’t want to live in, and having no way out except death.
What’s to understand?
Surely its so simple.
Don’t forget the number women who poisoned abusive men, but law enforcement and medical examiners quietly pretended it was natural causes
Let’s bring that back
Fine but only if we can bring back the 90% top tax bracket too
Yes please
Thank you for this additional piece of background, dear FistingEnthusiast.
“For rats.”
Yes, it is their goal, which is why they have to be killed.
What people seem to have also forgotten is the amount of righteous murder that was going on. https://youtu.be/Gw7gNf_9njs
Hold up. Rewind.
They used to sign fault during a divorce? What the hell?
Why was that ever a thing?
The elite and religion (same thing) need more babies
They won’t give a shit about female suicide.
Point out homicide of male partners dropped 70% and you may get their self-involved attention
The GOP is for gender equality by raising female suicide rates to match male ones.
Equal Opportunity Misery
Ignores? No, my friend. They’re completely aware and are fine with it.
More than fine. It’s the goal.
May I recommend The Way We Never Were for real insight into earlier American life and families.
This is kind of a bullshit statistic.
Female suicides for women have always been low, so the per 100k can vary a bit. In 1970 it was 7.4 per 100k and by 1980 it had dropped to 5.7 per 100k. However, in 1950 and 1960 it was 5.6 per 100k.
So really the “drop” was due to a single high decade of suicides before going back to the average that it had been at. The drop in suicides after the 1970’s was really still a slightly higher rate than the 50s and 60s.
Also, men commit suicide roughly four to five times more often than women.
Far higher social stigmas and family pressure likely led to fewer deaths being ruled suicide in the 1950s as compared to today but of course there can be no data on this fact, just anecdotes.
Anecdotal and a lack of causation. Saying suicides in women dropped after getting no fault divorce after the 70’s is no more a causational fact than saying female suicide rates dropped after the 70’s due to Billy Joel releasing his hit single My Life in 1979
due to Billy Joel releasing his hit single My Life in 1979
Seems legit. That’s a pretty inspirational song.
Ikr?
Statistics on women’s health from the 50s is probably as reliable as using a Billy Joel song.
Then so would statistics from the 60’s and 70’s and 80’s. You don’t like hearing what the actual data is because it doesn’t fit with your own predetermined narrative, so it must be the data that’s wrong. Sounds a lot like Trump. He only believes the polls that claim people love him.
I guess you really want to believe those were the “good ol days”. Go ahead. Just be glad you weren’t a women then.
Don’t try to defer the discussion or strawman off. I just pointed out that the tweets information is bullshit.
Sure, just pointing out that health stats from the 50s are bullshit.
Why would the goal be to make women miserable? Like what’s the point?
To get back at them for what Eve did in the Bible. (I’m only partly kidding.)
“Maybe”?
