• Beej Jorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org
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    10 days ago

    I’m not worried. The minute the ad blockers stop working I’ll finally be able to do something else with my time.

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    9 days ago

    Ublock Origin on Firefox With Sponsorblock is the answer.

    Edit: Mispelling, fuck autocorrection

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        I would disagree, you’re still directly communicating with YouTube servers without a proxy in-between. Invidious or Piped are the proxies you need, they let you blend in with the other users of their services making data-collection on YouTube’s part difficult.

        We need to make feeding the algorithm as difficult as possible.

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    9 days ago

    That explains the adblocker crackdown and enshittification of paid. Funnily enough, this pattern got me to block ads.

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        9 days ago

        Ive been blocking youtube ads for like a year now. But when it was like one or two minutes every 10-20 I didn’t mind watching on an app that didn’t have ad block. It got worse and I got fed up.

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        9 days ago

        Not the previous commenter but on mobile, a good few years ago I didnt block ads i didnt mind something skippable or a short interruption but they were just that very short and not in the way. I started going out of my way to block ads when they abused it

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      9 days ago

      By operating youtube at a loss for many years Google acted anticompetitively to kill competition or stop competition arising. Now that they’ve achieved that they can do what they like. Don’t feel bad using ad blockers against this anti-capitalist company.

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      9 days ago

      Hosting and storage costs, few can afford to be an alternative to an absolutely gigantic video storage platform that costs obscene money to maintain.

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        9 days ago

        You’re right :)

        I meant idk something like Oddysse (but a website with actual moderation)

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          Do you know of PeerTube? It’s not mainstream at all either, but it seems more known to me.

          It’s also in the fediverse, and isn’t accused of the same moderation issues (though idk if PeerTube is really better than Odyssee at moderation, I suppose it’s just a difference in policy).

          Edit: I read a bit about it, and I can see I was wrong about Odyssee being less known than PeerTube. It’s strange, I never heard of it, but anyway. Odyssee also includes some crypto bullshit, so yeah…

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      9 days ago

      OK, so a bittorrent tracker site with a video player built in with comments underneath and you can get perks from content creators for seeding. Then of course some kind of voting system and etc. Then a creator can just get a seed box to start hosting their own videos.

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      People get proccupied with emulating YT, which is indeed cost prohibitive. But that response assumes one is emulating all of it. What about only pursuing sections of it to cater to particular audiences? Serving 100% of YT’s video might be too much even for Amazon (for example) but what about 1%?

      Why couldn’t Amazon host Booktube? And the manga/anime enthusiasts and other varietes of weebs to go along with them? They already own ebook retail. A VOD service to chip off some of YT’s viewership would be a more productive investment than The Rings of Power…

      A YT competitor needs a bit of scale, sure, but not as much as YT itself. A fraction will do.

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        I believe the main cost is in hosting all the videos. A lot of them are probably junk that were never meant to see the light of day. I certainly use it as an extra backup for many of my videos with no context and random UUID titles.

        For everything else, a potential solution is to have everyone come in with their own videos hosted elsewhere and the platform just integrated with a bunch of APIs for fetching and serving those videos. For small time creators, the cost should be fairly low to none since a lot of platforms allow you to store a small number of files for free.

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      It’s a very difficult business model to make profitable without an already massive userbase. In fact, I think YT was actually losing money for Google for a while after they bought it. I could be misremembering though.

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        8 days ago

        Yes but not everything needs to make a profit, just not make a loss. Also it could be community supported with donations and stuff:)

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          YouTube was operating at a loss under Google for years. The only reason it is able to exist is because a massive entity like Google was able to absorb that without folding, and keep providing a free service until it becomes profitable (is it even yet? I’m not sure).

          I mean fuck Google, and yes a big enough non-profit (or even government) could do it (probably better), but unfortunately that’s not the world we live in right now.

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    Ive been using adblockers, piped and other tools for so long that i dont even remember what the last time was when i saw a youtube ad.

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      8 days ago

      Same… And if they ever successfully make it impossible to avoid, I’ll just stop watching YouTube

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      8 days ago

      Hard to do if you watch directly from your TV using some dongle and don’t know or can’t modify your router to block ads.

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        SmartTube is on AndroidTV

        Kodi can be installed through the play store, you can transfer files over smb and ftp and move the apk using it.

        You’re welcome.

        Excuses:

        I use a Roku or Roku TV

        Don’t, buy a $25 Android TV box from walmart.

        I use AppleTV

        Don’t, buy a $25 Android TV box from walmart.

        FTP? SMB? Apk? What are these, words?!

        These terms can be searched for and learned about.

        Why not just use Kodi?

        You’re ahead of the game, find a plugin pack and enjoy

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    8 days ago

    Occasionally I try the YouTube watch together thing on discord with my SO, and it really shows just how completely unusable YouTube is without an ad blocker.

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      8 days ago

      The only ads I see are on a local sports podcast. The advertisers are all local businesses. From restaurants to local credit unions. And those I’m fine with.

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    When ads get in the way I simply don’t watch the videos. It’s not like anybody ever really needs to watch any particular video.

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      Educational content is hard to come by outside of YouTube, so it would suck to have to avoid watching those videos because of ads.

      But I’ll do what I have to do in order to avoid ads for as long as possible. And I’ll archive important content in the meantime.

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        I pay for nebula, they have a lot of educational content and the price is low enough that I don’t mind it

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          Sounds good, but if I search “microwave repair” or “improve vo2max” , it comes up with zero results.

          That’s the sort of stuff we’d lose if creators don’t move away from YouTube. 😟

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            Thats true, I once had to repair my washing machine and I could only find 1 video about the same model and same repair. It was a large Russian man that I could not understand (this was before auto generated subtitles).

            Anyways, I just looked at the video and copied everything he did and I fixed my machine.

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    I watch youtube on a smart TV where I don’t have a way to skip ads. I know there are ways to do it, I just never implemented.

    The experience with Youtube is getting so much worse. It used to be one ad at the start of the video. Then it was two. And now ads in the middle of the video. They are also so long! It completely breaks the narrative of the video and is so distracting.

    All of this just makes me want to watch less Youtube, which is likely not a bad thing.

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        SmartTube Beta has been a life changer on Android TV. I would just avoid youtube on my tv because fuck ads. But then i found SmartTube Beta, and wow. No more ads!

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      When the ad is playing, are you able to press up a couple of times and click on the little (i)? It might then go to a “why am I seeing this ad” page which you can then click ok on then click on don’t watch this ad again and it will skip the ad. Doesn’t work if you’re casting a video from a phone, and it doesn’t work on some channels.

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      on the rare case that i watch YouTube on tv, if it’s at the beginning, i just quit the video and restart over and over again until i see a 5 sec skip. sometimes it takes longer than the ads would’ve taken but I’d rather do that than take it on the chin to be honest. I’m also hoping others do it too so maybe they get some telemetry data.

      and if it’s in the middle of the video i just quit. if it’s important enough i can just watch it on my phone or PC without ads.

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      Even with a premium account I’m stopping using YouTube little by little ever since they made their forced translation of titles and these AI voices that make the experience for bilingual people just horrible.

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        This is the most baffling feature ever. Why would anyone want to have titles translated? The video itself is not going to be translated! I guess it’s because of these auto subtitles that are simply not that reliable nor do they make for a good viwing experience if you really don’t know the language.

        Even Youtube’s algorithm already doesn’t suggest videos from languages in which you don’t search in! My youtube shows me stuff only in the languages I usually google with.

        And the ads with this ai voice… Damn they are weird.

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      You could see if an adblock dns works, you dont even have to set up pihole for that (its just local hosted adblock/whattheheckyouwant dns).
      If it makes problems you can set it to default or cloudflare or something

      Setting another dns is in most cases just going to the settings and pasting a link

      Edit: if you set the dns in your router it works at all devices at home

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        DNS blocking doesn’t work on YouTube ads because they’re served by the same domain of videos.

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      9 days ago

      I’m in the same boat here, I watch on my TV through a Roku and I don’t think there are any options for ad blocking.